Photoshop CS3 and Epson printer

I have PS CS3 with an Epson 4000 running on windows XP. I know Adobe is aware of a problem in which under some circumstances, (when you use roll paper) PS will print a smaller image off center and displaying in the interface the portrait mode despite me clicking landscape. I also know Adobe has a technote that offers solutions (I am already using version 10.0.1 with Bridge 2.1.1.9. Also solutions 2,3, and 4 on the tech notes have not worked. I tried different combinations and permutations of settings to no avail. Now I work on CS3 on the image, save it, and print it on CS2 which I kept on my computer, and has no problems printing. Can you please keep this as an on-going problem, since it has not been solved yet? Any feedback on this? There are a lot of Epson printer out there, and printing for a photographer is absolutely important. Thanks.
Ed Kneler

Have spent hours with both Adobe and Epson support people. I've read several of these forums. Is there an insurmountable problem with CS3 and Epson (2200/2400 are mine)? I have the Leopard patches and upgrade 10.5.4.
With Photoshop managing the color I get prints that are slightly underexposed and carry a pink cast. Color management is off. With the printer managing the color I get prints that are too green and dark. Epson advice here is to have color management off. There are two other choices for management but to adjust a perfectly balanced print to the printer's whim seem like cruel punishment.
Have a calibrated monitor and my CS2 works beautifully. Perhaps the best idea is to just go back to CS2 until Adobe and Epson can decide what to do. According to Adobe people, the CS3 gives much of the management back to Epson. According to Epson -- with CS3, you should choose the printer to manage the color (since this seems to be the trend between the two companies) but we users are not happy with the results.
What is the solution for right now?

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