Photoshop CS4 Experience

At home, I have used Photoshop CS and CS2. At work, I use Photoshop CS4. Even though the later version of Photoshop have somewhat nifty features and a more uniform interface and integration, I still find myself happy and content with CS2 mainly for the introduction of the multi-selectable layer support without all the "extraness". What are your thoughts on past experiences in comparison with the later versions of Photoshop?

> What are your thoughts
Pretty broad topic, that.
If you are looking for justification in staying with the older version, I have no problem with that. I only upgrade every other version. One reason is that newer versions sometimes bog down on older computers, and I am not willing to buy a new computer every 18 months.
Just follow the upgrade announcements closely to ensure that you will not get stuck with no upgrade path. At one time you could always upgrade from any version. Now it is only possible from the last three versions, and I could see that going to the last two versions in the next release (since the financial results of the last version release were less than Adobe had hoped for).

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Photoshop CS4 Experience, Problems & Questions

Hi all,
i just installed my Production Suite Premium on the following System (fresh install, clean System, no other versions of Photoshop):
Intel E8500 Dualcore
Nvidia Geforce 9800 GX2 (Driver Version 178.24)
3 GB RAM
Windows XP Professionel SP3
Photoshop has its own Scratchdisk assigned with at least 50 GB free Space.
I know that the 9800 GX2 is considered to be a "Gaming-Card" but as a freelance artist i work for the game-industry on many occasions and I need a decent gaming hardware to test what I am working on. As far as I know, the card meets all requirements for CS4 and Nvidia tells me, that their GPU's are perfect for CS4. (wasn't a problem with any version before, I use Photoshop AND Nvidia-Cards since Photoshop 4)
Here are the things that bug me:
- Photoshop disables the OpenGL Features on random occasions, stating, that it has encountered a problem. This happens either in Two GPU-Mode or One-GPU-Mode.
There's no obvious reason for any errormessage, because IF Open GL is activated it seems to work pretty good, zooming and rotating works quite well and fast. I noticed, that the problem happens either after saving my file or when i open photoshop.
- Photoshop crashed on several occasions mostly concerning heavy transforming of multiple layers. It simply didn't respond anymore in the midst of the transormation-process.
My guess is, that this is also linked to the GPU/Driver. System-Memory is checked, GPU works like a charm in all other applications. CS3 has not once crashed in one year, so i guess it has to do with the changes made in CS4.
Strange thing is, that even with open GL deactivated, the above written problems occur. I would have thought, that with OpenGL dectivated, Photoshop would somehow become kind of CS3 again, but it seems, there had been to much changes to simply disconnect photoshop from it's new OpenGL interface.
Apart from these two Problems, Photoshop CS4 is doing ok. It feels kind of sluggish compared to older versions, but that might also change with some new drivers.
Sad thing is, that the rotate canvas feature and the extended moverange for images, the main reasons why i upgraded to CS4, are only working with
OpenGL activated. I really hope there will be a fix in the near future.
There are other questions concerning PS CS4's usability:
- The Scale-Brush Feature uses alt + right mouse buttons, what seems kind of strange when using a stylus (Even more when using a stylus without buttons like the wacom layout-marker).
I would prefer another combination of keyboard shortcuts plus stylus movement ctrl + alt for example. so far i have not found a way to remap the keys. Am i missing something? Or is this impossible?
- Is there a way to get window behavior back the way it was in CS3? The new way of handling windows is ok, but i liked the old one better. If i disable "floating windows docking" there's no way to maximize a window INSIDE the photoshop workspace. The maximize button on top of every window is right now completely useless because it maximizes the window AND gets rid of all the menus and palettes. I don't see why i want to do that.
That's it. I hope this is useful either for the guys at adobe or for other users. Every new Photoshop-Version has had its problems, i hope that these will just be dealt with like the ones before.
All the best,
Pickman

Photoshop CS4 does cause crashes. I can vouch for that too. When it happens, the first instinct is almost always to assume that something is wrong with the computer and start from there. Comments to this effect are prominent in many threads. It is also Adobe's prevalent approach. So people experiencing these problems will tend not to post on these forums. Statements like 'because there are only a few posts, a significant number of people are not experiencing [these] problems' are therefore unfounded. There simply has not been time yet for people to resolve potential hardware/system problems.
In my case, I started experiencing unexplained crashed with CS3 in July (see below) but it was only when Adobe admitted that they could be partly to blame that I posted my experiences (elsewhere) on this forum.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I have installed Photoshop CS4 on a newly reformatted HDD containing a fresh clean installation of Windows XP/SP3, fully patched, with everything working hunky dory, and no legacy installations of Photoshop or other CS software to worry about. All the same PS CS4 keeps crashing. The symptoms are unexplained total freeze ups occurring at random. I may get several hours use, sometimes a lot less, before I am forced to reboot and start all over again. Certainly the ability to do any useful work is severely compromised, and yes, the first inclination is to blame the hardware or system installation.
The thing is I had been chasing a similar, probably related, problem with CS3 (possibly caused by cloning my system drive, see http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b6bd8d/ ) while Photoshop was still activated, so I have had several months head start over anyone who may now be experiencing similar problems with CS4. As a result, Dell, whose support has been great throughout, have replaced just about every component under the hood of my PC, certainly everything that could be causing a problem. (GPU, CPU, memory, MB, PSU, disk controller, disk cables...). As a result, I am running a virtually brand new computer. Hardware and system problems have been all but eliminated. I have all the latest drivers for everything. It is virtually a brand new computer!
Yet PS/CS4 keeps crashing for no reason that can be established. Adobe have given me lots of homework to do to try to find out what affects it or remedies there are. It is all very tedious, but so far, nothing...
I am coming to the conclusion that there must be something intrinsically wrong with PS/CS4 that makes it incompatible with some systems and software installations, but not necessarily because of any fault with the latter. I have to say that, after initially trying to push me away, Adobe are being very helpful and clearly want (need?) to get to the bottom of this. The trouble is that when the system locks up, it is completely and utterly paralysed, so any diagnostic and error reporting systems are inoperative. This suggests something beneath or beyond Windows, and, if it is not hardware, this points the finger of blame squarely at the activation software, which uses rootkit technology. (Would this be the same on a Mac, I wonder?)
For the record, my system is a Dell Precision 370 desktop with Dell/Phoenix BIOS A08, 3.2GHz Pentium 4 CPU, Intel 925X chipset, 2MB ECC SDRAM, Nvidia Quadro FX3450 graphics, 2x Seagate 146MB Cheetah 5.5k disks (SCSI) in non-RAID configuration. From the limited experience I have had, it seems perfectly capable of running the software (apart from when it crashes, of course.)

Why is Photoshop CS4 crashing under ...

... such seemingly unrelated conditions?:
When I try to convert an RGB image with layers to CMYK or grayscale
When I try to delete an adjustment layer or layer w/a vector mask by clicking on the layer palette trashcan (drag/drop, delete key and fly-out options work fine)
When I try to create/save a new workspace, or select the Basic or What's New in CS4 workspaces (all others are accessible)
When I try to flatten an RGB image w/multiple layers
Ocassionally when I close an image file in any way (mouse, menu or key stroke)
I'm running OS X 10.5.8 on a Mac Pro, Quad-Core Intel Xeon. My other CS4 apps are fine, so far, and I haven't done anything different to the system other than install updates when the updater prompts me. I uninstalled/reinstalled Photoshop five times, uninstalled/reinstalled the whole Creative Suite once, to no avail. I'd greatly appreciate any thoughts or advice ...

I found 3 crashes under your name. 2 of them are uncommon, but occur in the ExtensisFontManagement plugin and appear to be due to a bug in the plugin. The first is a crash on quit, and the second is Extensis attempting to override Alerts for some odd reason, and their override fails.
The third crash cause happens more frequently, cause unknown, but it looks very, very similar to the Extensis Alert override bug.
So, try disabling the ExtensisFontManagement plugin, and I suspect your Photoshop CS4 experience will be a lot happier.

Adobe Photoshop CS4 Installation Error

I'm new to this site and my computer has Vista Home Premium Service Pack 1.
After I installed Photoshop CS4 trial, it failed to install Photoshop, but the rest were successful. I went to get more information and this is the message:
Adobe Fonts All
Error:
Error 1603. Error 1907.Could not register font . Verify that you have sufficient permissions to install fonts, and that the system supports this font.
Adobe Photoshop CS4 English Language Pack
Error:
Error 2.
If there is a topic similar to this one, then I shouldn't be here!

I have been using Adobe Photoshop CS4 for a few months now without any problems or errors.
But last week.. i had a virus problem and decided to do a Clean Installation of my Operating System.
I was not too worried because I have done this millions of times already... and know the process like the back of my hand.
Well.. after the clean installation was complete, i started to load my applications.
To my surprise.. Adobe Photoshop CS4 would not install. Nor would Adobe Illustrator CS4.
It would get to the screen "Adobe is beginig the installation process" and would stall ..
At first... i thought it would eventually complete on it's own.. but after a few attempts and hours of the same screen with no progress.. it was obvious Adobe was no longer responding at that stage.
I searched high and low, night and day, over a few days trying to figure out the problem.
I was trouble-shooting everything.
In the middle of trouble-shooting, i took a break to surf the Net and see if i could find any suggestions when i ran into this Forum.
Someone mentioned disabling your Internet Security & Windows Defender.. and i thought.. no way.. it can't be that easy.
Well.. what do you know.. it was my Internet Security (Kaspersky Internet Security 2010)
After disabling Kaspersky Internet Security 2010, Adobe flew right pass the part where it was stalling, and finished installation without incident.
Adobe Illustrator CS4 also installed without any problems ...
I just wanted to share my experience as i know how frustrating it can be when software refuses to install.
Good Luck to everyone.. be patient.. trial & error. .. and im sure you'll figure it out.
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ApologetX wrote:
"downloaded Photoshop CS4 here and i tried to install as trial (30 days), Error: "Please insert Photoshop C4 into drive E:/ to continue instalation" what's wrong? What should I do? To install free trial? Tks"
@ ApologetX
I had a similar problem when i extracted the contents of my Adobe DVD and made an ISO file out of it so i would no longer need the DVD for installation.
But what i realized is that.. Adobe will not install if it's installed from the ISO.. and during installation.. an error would pop up.. and ask for the DVD
You probably have done something similar.
Here's what i did to fix:
- Extract the contents of Adobe Photoshop CS4 into a Folder
- and install from that ..
After i extracted the contents and installed from "setup.exe" .. the installation completed without error ..
DVD
- If you're having problems from the DVD .. then try to extract the Contents of the DVD on to your Desktop..
and install from there ..
Trial Installer
- As for the Trial you are referring to .. im not familiar with it ..
but try to extract the contents of it to your Desktop .. and go from there ..
Good Luck

Problem installing Adobe Photoshop CS4. Please help me.

Hi Geeks,
I am stuck with Adobe Photoshop CS4 (Trial) installation since last two days. I am desperately looking for help to get rid of this problem.
My Problem:
At the end of installation of Adobe Photoshop CS4 (Trial) i was prompted with en error
message stating some of the components were not installed. When I check the more information button provided in the error message window, it showed below error.
“Adobe Photoshop CS4 English Language Pack Error: Error 2.”
Still I could find the installed Photoshop in C:\Program files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS4\Photoshop.exe
When I executed above file; application showed below error message and close it.
“Some of the application components are missing from the application directory, Please reinstall the application.”
I just try to run Adobe Device Central CS4 which was installed along with it. It showed below error message.
“The Localized resource files for this application could not be loaded. Please reinstall or repair the application and try again.”
So My Problem is I am unable to open Photoshop CS4 after its unsuccessful installation.
I spent more than a day in different ways as I explained below in more info section. I am desperately looking for helping hands to fix this problem.
I ever find this kind of difficulty with any other components installation in my 10 years of development experience. Please help me.
More info:
(1) I have downloaded Adobe Photoshop CS4 (Trial) in this month (July 09) from adobe official site.
(2) My PC OS Windows XP SP3.
(3) Prior to install Photoshop CS4 I had Acrobat reader 8 and Adobe DW CS4.
(4) After I read some stuff on net, I downloaded both Windows install Clean up and CS4InstallerDatabaseUtility.exe.
(5) First I uninstalled all DW CS4 and Photoshop CS4 using add/remove then rebooted.
then ran CS4InstallerDatabaseUtility.exe (which really did not removed as it did not
find any Adobe component), then installed Photoshop CS4. No luck. same error.
(6) This time I ran CS4InstallerDatabaseUtility.exe and removed DW CS4, Photoshop CS4 and flash and rebooted. Then I ran Photoshop CS4 as Administrator. Same thing repeated at the end of installation and when I tried to open the photoshop. Finding a real hard time with it.
Any kind of help to get rid of this problem would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
R Sunil.

PS CS4 software itself has to be installed as Admin. Put the downloaded folder on the desktop (if not there already). Open the folder and right click on the .exe file and choose run as Admin.
Install on C drive is the best stable choice.
Before you do all this make the anti-virus is turned off. If windows defender is running turn that off too. If Adobe reader is installed renove that. Ensure no other adobe products are running in the background.
During install the process will hang at 90 percent for about 10 to 15 mins. This is normal.
After the software is installed reboot computer.
After reboot go to start, All Programs and right click on PS CS4. Click on properties, Compatibility and check run as Admin. Hit Apply and OK to close. Run PS CS4 and update to 11.0.1
Be Advised:
Now the biggest problem you might run into is that the trial install went too far and failed. If this happened you cannot re-install PS CS4 trial because of the DRM that is hidden in the registry hive. The hidden DRM prevents people from installing the trial more then once and limits the trial at 30 days. There is nothing you can do other then nuking the hard drive and a fresh install of your operating system.

Has anyone experienced there computer freezing up when useing Photoshop CS4 or SC5

My two computers both freeze up when I am useing Photoshop (working with a large file 82-120 megs with multiple layers, channels and paths) it only ocurred when useing Photoshop. Otherwise the computrs works fine for every day tasks for buseniss and personal use, admittedly, I do not have any other resource intnsive applications other then QuickBooks or maybe a large Excel spreadsheet but I have no problem with these large files. I am not a gamer or I could try a game I hear that they can be resorce intensive.
My first computer is used for personal and business. this computer has a number of programs on it, including Kaspersky internet security but it is not lacking in resorces, It is a Intel based computer, sporting Intel quad core 2.5 GHz CPU. running on a 32 bit Windows 7 operating system, its list of components are 4 gig ram, Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT graphics card (on the Adobe approval list sporting open GL) 4 sata hard drives, 750 watt power supply, Asus P5N-D SLI motherboard, the tower case has 7 fans and the CPU is water cooled.
I run Photoshop CS4 on this unit.
after I experienced this loss of critical files I call the tech support line to see if they could help with recovery of the file and to ask if they had a way to prevent this from occuring again.
They said that I could wave bye bye to the file and the work, additionaly they said if I was working with large files like that, I should be runing a 64 bit system that could utilize additional memory.
I really like working with the large files so I bit the bullet and spent the money for the 2nd computer that I would use as a dedicated Photoshop workstation.
the second system has many of the same components because they have worked admirably. the key difference is as followes. 8gig ram, 64 bit Windows 7 operating system, Photoshop CS5 and the only other software is the drivers for the wacom intos4 tablet. I desided not to install any type of antivirus program because I will not be useing it on the internet except when it needs to connect to Adobe for whatever. my decision not to install antivirus can be reversed but I did not want any questions about it slowing up the computer.
This system with Photoshop CS5, freezes up faster then the CS4 system.
When I say Freezes up what I am referring to is the mouse and keyboard will not respond. Control/alt/delete will not bring up the task manager. Eventually I give up and have to force a shut down by pushing and holding the case start button for about 5 to 8 seconds.
when I restart the system I check the file that I have been working and several times the file that I was working on is corrupted beyond Photoshops ability to open.
I have used the windows 7, on board, memory diagnostics and it claims that all of the memory is fine I have reviewed the event logs and the only critacal errors are about the system being improperly shuting down. I even went to the trouble to click on the link for each error that will take you to Microsofts website and will serch for anything they have about that event and they had no help on the event.
People with mac computers have had a similar problem that had to do with there fonts and plugins, but I do not have a mac and I have not installed any plugins. The CS5 is as it came from the factory and the Mac people kicked me out telling me to get over on my side of the street where the rest of the windows outcast are but that was only after they thought they had there problen solved. Its so funny, but losing these files is not, Please Help

Thanks everyone for jumping in with both feet.
Let me review what I have already done.
(1). I have already witnessed how the wround driver for the tablet will wrack havoc. when I first started the 64 bit version of CS5 it would not recognize any PSD files at all and if you went to the file and right clicked looking for the (open with) dialog box forget-about-it the option for Photoshop was not an option.
I called Adobe tech support and they told me that I was not going to be able to use the Wacom tablet with the 64 bit versionof Photoshop. I found that a little suspicious seeing how Wacom tablets are the most preferred pen tablets for professional illustrators.
I contacted Wacom and they explained that I needed to uninstall the Wacom tablet, reboot the computer, go to the website, download the new 64 bit drivers and then reinstall the tablet. after I did that. Photoshop found all of my files and opened just fine.It was only then that I found out about the freezing proplem with the 64 Bit version.
A number of the helpful people here have tried to advise this to me but I have already be down tha road.
(2). I have the latest drivers for the BFG Nvidia Geforce 9600 Gt, released in April of this year and I had already new that the were necessary for the open GL so this is one of the first things that I tried.
Some one from our cousin Mac's side of the famaly and (Noel just suggested) that I try turning off the open GL. As soon as cousin Mac asked us to try this I did it (Them being famaly and all).
I was able to give it a try on the 32 bit system on Thursday 7/8/2010.
I was able to work on a very large file with a multitude of layers, channels and paths for about 5 hours before if froze. after the reboot I found that the file was fine and retained everything up to my last save.
But this test is only good as circumstantial evidence because the freezes are somwhat random. They mosly happen after I have been working with a large file for quite some time but some times it can happen very quickly, maybe 25 or 30 minutes.
Bye the way I really enjoy the humor, the Mac people are very serious people.
the Mac users are just grouchy because they expect their computers to "just work", and of course they don't.
We PC users have been given no such expecatations. THANKS NOEL
Oh, don't worry about them mean old grumpy PC wanna be Mac peoples. Gota luv it THANKS dec9
and Eight thousand dollar papper weight says it all. THANKS $8000paperweight.
(3) the memory, CPU and mother board can not be ruled out completly, just yet
As for the memory I have used the on board windows 7 diagnostics and it passed. but this is a unreliable test for hevy-resource dependent applications and a load or stress test would need to be done to be confidend.
I have a number of computers with the same kind of ram but after swaping them around I can not say that I have had any lasting results and it is compecated by experiences like what happened to me after turning off the open GL. What if I had of only worked for 4 hours? I would of thought that the problem was solved thats what would of happened
Do any of you work with files like I have been talking about? and if so do you experience any problems?
The motherboard can not be rulled out by any tests that I know of other then process of elimination which is at the heart of all sound diagnostics.
I downloaded a utility that is helpful called (Cupid Z) that gives real time monitoring and idenification of components.All the voltages seem fine.A.
I hope I will be able to up load the screen shots so you all can have a look see.
The CPH is more than likely not the problem.
I do have the option to install Photoshop on a third computer that has most of the same components but has a different Intel CPU. this would rull out any compatability issues (CPU with the Board) but if that were the case I dought that every other progrem under the sun works fine except Photoshop.
dec9, I did delete the prefs on the 32bit system but I have not had time to test the operation of Photoshop as of yet.
Lastly I will try to upload the screen shots of (Cupid Z) you will see that the latencys and the frequency are correct. Under the SPDscreen the plausible timinigs for verious common frequencies are given,, all seem to be with in range. The lantency are inside the spec.given by Corsair;s website
Asus provides a utility that allows you to monitor Temptures and voltages and I hope to send you a screen shot of this and you can see that they all are correct.
I would like to send the event log but I am not sure how to do that if someone could give me the 411 on how to do this I will send them to you I have saved the errors in several file formats but I cant see how you cold read them on this little page Thanks again POBOX119 signing off

Photoshop cs4 new system integration and network problems

Hi there!
I am new to the forums, but I will just dive right into my issue rather than introducing myself:
I recently did a new hardware install (16 TB of clustered storage) at a mograph studio that are heavy users of Photoshop CS4, amongst other things. Prior to the new storage, they primarily used an Xserve with attached RAID device, and CS3. They are now experience high amounts of file corruption on PSDs from saving over the network. I am, of course, aware the Adobe does not support network saving, due to the plethora of problems that may exist and the difficulty of recreating such varied environments. I also know that neither Apple nor Adobe seem overtly concerned with this problem, although they may have fixed it with updates in CS3. The users are aware of this fact, but continue to stress that they had "no problems what so ever on the xserve".
Basically, aside from the facts that are available in http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406793.html and found on the forums, has ANYONE found an exceptable work around for these sort of issues. Also, we tried the "save as" fix that was posted on these forums, and that did not work either.
Please, any help is extremely appreciated. Thanks

If you have a working network and servers -- it can work. (and does for most of the servers inside Adobe, and those in my home)
But if anything (OS, network, server) malfunctions -- the process breaks in difficult to diagnose ways.
Photoshop is already following all the safe file save guidelines, testing for permissions, testing for space availability, etc. But still things fail on networks. And when we look into the failures, it's rarely the same cause and usually can't be worked around in any reasonable manner.
As application developers, we're frustrated too. We know it can work. We know it should work. But some things are too far beyond our control.
Bottom line: Finder and Explorer add a lot more error checking to server file copies, and do their copies in relatively simple patterns (unlike file saves that can involve random seeks and writes, depending on the format). Saving locally and copying to the server afterward is going to be safer (adds at least 2 more layers of error checking). The same goes for copying from the server then opening -- though we see far fewer errors reading from a server than writing to a server.

Adobe Photoshop cs4 freezes at "Preparing to Install..." on Mac OS X 10.6

I am trying to install Adobe Photoshop CS4 for the first time (it's not an upgrade) from the trying versión of adobe.com on Mac OS X 10.6 (all the latest updates are installed). The Mac install is also pretty fresh, although I have installed a few things. The CS4 install starts and I get a "Preparing to Install..." message. But, that's it. It's stuck there indefinitely.
I have disable my antivirus software, tried to use AdobeSupportAdvisor (but it doesn't seem to be able to determine that an install has been attempted), and been working through everything on
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/407/kb407428.html
to no avail. I get the same behavior no matter what I try.
Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

While I understand you may have valid reasons for using it, I still have to ask, why on earth are you running antivirus on OSX? I know there are a few people here who love trying to convince the rest of the world that there actually is such a thing as a Mac virus, and that the threat is very real that unprotected Macs could be vulnerable, but I've been using OS X since 10.0 (early in 2002) and I've never seen or been affected by a virus on any of seven Macs I've owned.
I've tested McAfee (Virex), Norton, and Trend Micro products for Mac only to find that they are either cumbersome and bothersome to the point that they ruin the user experience of a truly user friendly OS, or they interfered with things I was trying to do or needed to do with other software.
The end result is that I do not use antivirus of any kind on my Mac and to date I've yet to have a single problem because of that choice.
I'd wager a good guess that the root of your problems is some background process of your antivirus trying to san the installer or stop the installation altogether because the installer is newer than a virus database file, which most companies don't make a serious priority of updating for Mac since they know as well as most of us that there aren't any Mac viruses out there just waiting to destroy an OS that isn't Windows.

Photoshop CS4 install error

Hiya, I require some help with the installation of photoshop CS4 (i think it's extended edition)
The situation:
I downloaded the InDesign trial version from the adobe website and installed it as a trial. After liking the program, i activated it.
Having had a previous experience with photoshop, i downloaded it as well and installed as a trial. This time, however it did not prompt me if I wished to enter a serial code. I went along with it.
Just recently, Photoshop got the "licence expired" error. I figured that the trial had run out, however I still could not seem to enter a serial code. Deciding to re-install (i still have the installer package) I attempted to run the uninstaller. It encountered errors, so I deleted the photoshop folders out of my program files. (both the x64 and x86 (I'm running win7x64)) Now whenever I try to run the installer package it gets most of the way through checking the system profile then displays the error message:
"Setup has encountered an error and cannot continue. Contact Adobe Customer Support for assistance"
I then used a cleaner to clean all adobe programs from my computer. Now all the installers (PhotoshopCS4 and InDesignCS4) give the same error. I have tried the CS4 cleaning scripts, the lot. any suggestions? I'm not overly worried about my indesign serial, I have it backed up around here somewhere =)
Help would be GREATLY appreciated
PS: No, I dont want to use gimp or paint.net, and I dont feel like formatting my C:\ especially as I havn't been supplied with a system restore disk

The 4.5 installer is not needed for Windows 7 so don't worry about that. Windows 7 has the latest downloader already installed.
If you downloaded CS4 (looks like you did reading your attachment) put the folder on your desktop and run the install from there. For some reason PS CS4 download does not extract well in a system folder. Putting it on the desktop avoids this.
When the folder or download is on the desk top right click on it and look at the general tab. At the bottom there might be a unblock button. Click on this button and it will on lock it. If it is not there don't worry about it. Now if you don't see the unblock there right click on the .exe file in the folder and look for the same. If not there don't worry about it.
In the folder on the desk top right click on the .exe file and choose run as Admin.
Also:
Remove adobe reader if installed.
Turn-off any anti-virus running. Turn off Windows defender if running (if installed).
Download and install CCleaner. Free download and it finds and removes un-wanted old files.
http://www.ccleaner.com/

What's happen in Photoshop CS4?? please help...

Hi everybody, now i have problem with Photoshop CS4 but i don't know why.
I've installed it in Windows Vista, when finished installing, open the picture and ... (please see the picture as below)
I've already re-installed many times but still same problem so please help.
Thanks.

Ok, thanks for your helping, i've already fixed this problem.
After updated driver for ATI HD2600XT Graphic card and it's ok but not smooth.
So how about your experience if i use Photoshop CS4 and After Effect CS3, should i use which Graphic card to use this software be come good.
Anyway thanks for your help.

Photoshop CS4 is unbelievably slow. Downgrade me please.

I'm running Photoshop CS4 on a 2.6 MacBook Pro with 4 Gig of RAM. Everything on this machine runs beautifully, and I rarely, if ever, experience enough lag in any app to become frustrated.
Photoshop CS4 is the only exception.
Extremely frustrating problems include:
up to 10 second pause before refresh when zooming in and out.
5 to 20 second pauses when selecting/deselecting layers.
stuttering and crippling lag when dragging an image around, especially when zoomed in.
unresponsive reactions to layer nudging.
anywhere from 10 second to 5 minute (not an exaggeration) pause while saving for web, accompanied by frequent crashes.
all of the above problems are completely random and not consistently reproduceable, though they occur very regularly.
As a professional designer, I've been used to ignoring Photoshop CS3 and concentrating on the work I was doing. This is exactly how a good tool should function. With Photoshop CS4 I spend far more time frustrated and conscious of the unresponsive & clumsy tool than I do paying attention to what I'm trying to do. Apart from being constantly and unbelievably frustrating, it's costing me time, and therefore money, and affecting the quality of my work.
If anyone from Adobe is paying attention here, you should be very worried. I have spent a great deal of energy lately wishing for an alternative to Photoshop. Having customers whose loyalty is based on nothing more than a lack of viable alternatives is a perfect opportunity for a competitor to drink your milkshake, and earn the gratitude of customers like myself. You, the creators of the Quark killer InDesign, should know that very well.
The first Photoshop CS4 update, 11.0.1, solved none of my problems. As a customer who bought CS4 new, and not as an upgrade, I don't have the option of downgrading to CS3, although I would dearly love to. Providing me with a free downgrade wouldn't really solve my problem – Photoshop CS4 would still be painfully slow – but at least I could work in peace again.
How about it Adobe?
Are you a designer using Photoshop CS4? Tell me about your experiences here:
http://mattbalara.com/2009/05/downgrade-me-please.html

You can in fact get your money back from Adobe during the first 30 days after buying the software.
Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to comment on the performance of CS4 or any other software on a laptop, but what I can tell you is that CS4 runs very fast and smoothly on my lowly, older machine.
Dual bootable, DP MDD 1.25GHz G4 (2004), maxed out at 2GB of RAM, both Spotlight and Dashboard disabled, Photoshop primary scratch disk on dedicated 160GB internal drive, at least 100GB available on each of the four internal drives, up to 300GB on some. Counting external FW drives just over 1TB of drive space available. nVidia GeForce 7800 GS 425MHz 256 MB "mutant" flashed graphics display card. Processor napping enabled through CHUD 3.5.2. Tiger 10.4.11. Photoshop 11.0.1.
If you want Adobe to read your message, contact them directly. We're mostly users like you in this forum.

Photoshop CS4 running slow on MAC OS X

I bought myself a MAC OS X recently with a student edition of Photoshop CS4, i am currently studying photography and have been told many times that a mac would be the best option to edit images- this coupled with Photoshop CS4. However since loading the program onto my MAC i have had nothing but stress it is being extremely slow.
For example when i start to add layers to my work it immediately slows down, esp when i start adding effects to any of the layers such as 'surface blur', the 'elliptical tool' is also slow as when i create a shape i see nothing come up on the actual image... For me to actually be able to see what i am doing i usually have to toggle between the icons on the tool bar on the side. Another slow feature is the cropping tool, when i want to move the crop the slightest bit by using the arrows on my keyboard the shape doesnt follow where its meant to go. What i have also noticed is that the 'preview' image doesn't apply on the image im working on, usually when an effect such as a blur is applied it shows what it would look like on the image before you click ok. At least this is my experience with Photoshop CS2 and a PC. This is all happening with just one image open, so you can imagine what it is like when i open multiple images... I will admit my images are large in size, but surely photoshop should be able to handle this? The macs in my university are able to handle this AND more (adding multiple layers and images on-top of each other) and they also use CS4.
I have troubleshooted it to death, even rung the store where i bought the program and MAC from and they have updated all the features on the mac and photoshop and this has not helped. Ive even checked if it could be the video card, my mac currently has the- ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro. I believe this to be the most recent and up to date card however i haven't ruled it out as the source of the problem. The ram has also been doubled and is now 4GB.
One thing i do notice is that at FIRST everything seems fine, and then when i really start to get into editing an image it slows down hugely and starts to show the problems mentioned before. I have just rung the MAC support line and they advised me to open a new account on the mac and load photoshop onto there to see if its any of the settings on my particular account, again everything seemed fine at first- but then it fell back into its bad habits of being slow.
Any help or suggestions would be great as this is really getting me down, im a university student studying photography for my degree and i really want this resolved before i go back and start taking more photos.
Liz

The web psd files may be 100mb... not the actual files on a web site. 100mb files on the web would be silly All the actual final web images are almost always under 200k at the very most, more often ~50k max.
I do several different types of projects -- web development, print production, direct mail, advertising, illustration (mostly vector in AI though), and photography retouching. My working files always hit 100MB easy.. in print production or illustration is very easy to hit 700MB - 1GB with a file if not more. Final production files are rarely that large... But I retain all working files as well for easy editing in the future. Photography retouching doesn't often create such large files. That's not to say they can't... but it's just more rare with retouching since most of the work is spot retouching or overall tonal shifts.
File size is also greatly effected by how you work. The more non-destructive methods you use, the greater the file size can get. If you flatten layers file sizes are reduced. I don't ever flatten any layer if it can be avoided.
Forget OWC.. they're great but not the best for RAM.. 18004memory.com has the same ram.. the same warranty.. at better prices. 4x4GB sticks = $396 for 667mhz RAM and $463 for 800mhz both with free shipping. I've got 16GB of RAM in my MacPro from 18004memory and have been wonderfully happy for over a year with it. When I loaded my machine prices were easily triple those. But then.. the economy was much better then too.

Failed to install Adobe Bridge CS4 & Adobe Photoshop CS4 (Windows)

I have done everything Adobe had instructed me to do. From the clean script to the clean up utility. Ended up doing a restore point to recover lost programs in the add/remove programs. Adobe neglected to tell me to back up files first. I have even uninstalled every adobe program that I could and tried to install once again. I did restart my computer each time I performed an action on my computer. I am back to square one on trying to install my Adobe Photoshop CS4 Extended software. If anybody has any suggestions or solutions I would appreciate any help that you can give. I need this program for a photography class that I am enrolled in. Classes already started & I cannot complete my first assignment without this program. Please help me if you can. Adobe sure couldn't
This is one of the worst experiences I have encountered with installing a program. I have a headache from all of this!!!
Thank You
Diana

So should I manually delete everything that says Adobe?
No, god forbid. That would be disastrous and make the situation worse. Please download the CS4 Clean Script and have it remove all traces of your damaged install. Then, look through your Add or Remove Software list in your system control panel and uninstall everything that still referes to Adobe, including AIR, Adobe Media player, Adobe Reader etc.. Once done, run the Microsoft Installer Database Cleanup that you were required to downlaod for the CS4 script manually. Look for lingering instance of Adobe Installer 2.0 and remove them. Then attempt another install. Warning: If you have other working Adobe software on your system, it would be smart to deactivate it. All the previous operations may render the software defunct and you will be required to reinstall.
Mylenium

Poor RAM management in Photoshop CS4 - need help!

I have done numerous hours of research over the years only to give up and come back to this subject later on. I will try again!
I must ask: is there ANY way to get Photoshop CS4 to automatically flush used RAM after closing image files? I'm tired and annoyed of CS4 eating more and more RAM without freeing anything after an image has been closed. An image shouldn't still eat up memory when it isn't even open anymore. It seems to be terrible RAM management of the program itself and how Adobe has forgotten to write that little snippit of code to clear the RAM after an image has been closed.
I know this is not because of:
Cache levels
Setting too large of a saved history state; purging history cache or any kind of cache still never frees RAM
A lack of updates; I have been up to date with CS4 very punctually as they were released
The computer I am on; this poor RAM management has been around since CS2 and it's the same on the last 4 computers I have used
Does CS5 still do this too?

Your historically conditioned to believe software apps should swap data a standard way. The way your using the system is probably not the most effective processing for your workflow.
- I have hundreds of TIFFS that take 60-120MB each in processing, and 8gb of RAM. The more total RAM actually usable that I can use the better. How the heck can using less of what is actually available RAM enhance my workflow? Standard are standards for a reason. The ink industry for printing is non-standardized and people waste $3-5 billion+ a year only increasing on unused ink that is still remaining in their cartridges, because there is no standard way of manufacturing ink, filling cartridges, or monitoring how much ink is actually left in a cartridge. I'd love for more standards in more markets. Unless natively stable, all other programs on my computer work flawlessly with said demonized traditional methods and standards, even in high bandwidth applications a hell of a lot more intensive than Photoshop CS4 will EVER be. Currently people keep disregarding the fact that in my situation CS DOESNT FREE THE RAM. CS4 is balloon. Balloon inflate. Never deflate even when emptied. Overflow into other rooms of critical OS space where balloon shouldn't be when it fill the room full. How many analogies must I give? Must I use sign language? Binary?
You don’t have enough experience with these topics. This is actually a
true statement. Most companies with systems large and small have to
think about what it costs to process specific jobs. If one in a thousand
jobs swap, a decision must be made to know how much it would cost to
retrofit a very expensive environment to keep that one job swap from
occurring. Most times it is better to let the swap happen for this
non-mission critical item than pay $50,000 to upgrade all systems.
I said NON EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. Emergencies are once in a while. You're repeating what I said like a parrot, but in different longer sentences with more words telling me I don't get what I'm talkinga bout. You're missing the full picture of what I am actually saying. That 1 in 1000 overflow would be exactly true in my situation with 7GB used, but it's not. Why not? Because the CS4 balloon will not deflate itself or reuse the empty space inside the balloon when it's needed, and the OS isn't given back any of the empty space to work with to know it doesn't need to page anything. In turn CS4 is going to try and scratch too when the OS is telling it that is has no more RAM left when indeed it does, but its hiding it in its own reserve balloon from itself. If a company needed just 700MB more room and either they spend $50k to upgrade to that, or get CS4 to release some space once in awhile, they'd sure as hell bother Adobe or write their own mod to force CS4 to release unused allocated RAM to get it.
Self inflicted only because I want to push the limit of what is actually usable on my machine, not some 'safe zone' with high tolerance. My system is tuned for a fine line of performance and I know what it can hande. I know what it uses and it does not spike usage for random OS operations. It can handle 7GB to 7.2GB of RAM of freely used RAM to one active program if it needs that big of a workspace to work. If CS4 isn't going to reuse the hollow areas in that balloon, then that's not my fault. My OS can handle the fine tuning, and CS4 is what cannot, obviously, since it can see that much RAM but not use the last %10 correctly.

Problems printing PSD from Photoshop CS4

My questions are: Does the PSD file have the printer information encoded?
Also why has this just started to show up? My wife has work successfully under the same conditions, files moved and printed on different printers, with no problems in the past.
I (we) have been struggling with a recent problem trying to print PSD files from Photoshop CS4. (Vista 32 bit, Epson 3880 networked) When trying to print certain, but not all, PSD files I get the message: "Before you can perform printer-related tasks such as page setup or printing a document, you need to install a printer." I have been in contact with Adobe support about the issue but with little in the way of positive results. I was referred to a kb link: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/409/kb409119.html Tried all that to no avail. (The first suggestion is absurd to the point of making me wonder what process is used to construct the kbs. You cannot open the print menu when you get this message so....?)
Other solutions are not acceptable for the work my wife is doing, editing high quality photographs for an exhibition with test prints and so on. We are under intense time pressue with four shows coming up in a very short time. The final solution offered is that CS5 has solved all of this. Hum? interesting. No comment except new program, new problems so not a real solution for us.
In searching the web about this problem I have come across many other people with the same problem working from different platforms and even different Adobe products. I noticed that the MAC OS seemed to cause the same problem and that there was a problem with Reader and Acrobat. In every case the problem is never solved by Adobe or anyone else and users find some "workaround". I too have found what we hope is a workaround in our contiued travels on the blogosphere, on flickr http://www.flickr.com/groups/wellington/discuss/72157621548183001/ as "...a nasty, nasty solution" but we skipped the flatten part and the GIMP part and resave the PSD under a different name.
Adobe does seem supportive but not that interested (CS4 right) but I would like to find a real solution and I think many people would benefit from it.
Anyway what I have found is that the PSD files that will not print have been printed on another printer at some time in the past. In my case the Printer was an Epson Artisan A50. The printer we are using now is the Epson Stylus Pro 3880. Even when trying to print wirelessly to the 3880 from the laptop (Was Vista, now Windows 7) that was used to edit and print with the A50, (USB connection) we saw the same error. So it seems that the printer information is somehow embedded in the PSD file (also mentioned in a Blog) and is keeping PS from seeing the printer because the same printer is not there.
Has anybody already found the fix?
I know this is a long post but I have been working on this problem and have heard all of the pat and frankly useless answers and workarounds. Can we find a solution and fix the problem?

Tech support put me on hold for about 30 minutes to 'look up my serial number'. When he came back he started saying he did find my serial nu..... and he hung up. I had already given him my callback number. Yet he never called me back when we were 'disconnected'. There is no excuse for him not calling me back. I have no reason to believe this was anything other than intentional avoidance of the problem. Before he started looking up my serial number, he told me that Photoshop didn't support working with files on a network drive (???). He also told me that even if it was found to be an actual defect in the product, I still owed the $39. The $39 was "not for finding the defect... it was for the technician's time.... (???) Where do they find these people to answer the phones?
Sorry about the venting... I'm just losing money by the day, and I get to pay for these kinds of moronic statements.
Here's the situation, yet one more time.....
1) I complete a PSD file and save it
2) I print it on one of the printers accessible by that machine
3) I then try to close the PSD, but it says the 'file has changed' The ONLY thing that has changed is that I PRINTED it. So you can't tell me PS is not saving at least something about the printing task in the file
4) If I say 'no' to the save-after-print question, I can go to another computer, open the same file and print with no problem
5) If I say 'yes' to the save-after-print question, and I go to another computer and try to print the file, I get the "In order to perform printing tasks you must define a printer" message
6) This scenario applies to any machine. Once I hit 'save' after printing, that PSD can now never be printed on any other machine other than that one.
7) And this is a user problem (???)
Somebody please tell me:
1) why PS marks a file 'changed' and requires saving after doing nothing other than printing it if it is not saving printer history/setup in the file?
2) Why I can print the PSD from any computer with PS installed as long as I don't do a save after printing from one, but as soon as I do a save after print, the file is basically locked permanently to that one machine forever?
Right... and they want a minimum of $39 to tell me a) this is a user problem, b) Photoshop doesn't support files on a shared network drive; c) "...NO.... we don't save printer information in the file, and d) get hung up on with no callback.
I have 40 years of experience in software architecture and development. I know enough to know a little bit about how these things work. And I also have been around long enough to recognize intentional denial of a product defect by the support team.

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