Photoshop CS6 - Pasting Smart Objects from InDesign CS6 look awful

Since upgrading from CS5 I'm having a huge problem using Smart Objects.
What:
Smart Objects pasted from InDesign into Photoshop are pixelated and corny beyond belief. Originating material placed in InDesign is hi-res (e.g. 600ppi) but when pasted in PS it looks crappy.
How:
Selecting an image in InDesign and pasting it in PS in a 72ppi file.
Typically I need to copy elements from previous art in ID and re-compose and use for web.
Why:
Can't seem to fix it. Have tried with Anti-Aliasing both on and off to no avail. None of the Image Interpolation settings affect this either.
Only solution is to scale the placed Smart Object to something like 400% where it suddenly looks nice again, rasterize and then scale it back down.
Theory:
Smart Object scaling is flawed in PS CS6.
Note: All scaled images in InDesign already look gritty and awful. Even with Display Performance: High Quality set (using default settings). Seems to me like CS6 scaling is b a d.
Anyone else seeing this?
Thanks
Image 1: Smart Object rasterized at same size as placed. (ouch. awful.)
Image 2: Smart Object Scaled to 400%, rasterized and then scaled back to original size (yum yum, like it used to be without up-rasterize-down-scaling)

That does not resolve the anti-aliasing issue in CS6 - it still looks rather bad.
The anti-aliasing sampling method applied to smart vector objects is just extremely bad looking. And it is not merely an issue in Photoshop: exporting artwork from Illustrator at web/screen resolution using the web export is absolutely abysmal looking (not other word applies here, unfortunately).
I explain more about this issue here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/6002543#6002543
The best option is to blow up the artwork, rasterize, and then scale down with bicubic or bicubic automatic, depending. But even then you will not achieve the same quality that can be attained with other tools that, for example, support catmul rom and mitchellnetravali for downsampling.
Anyway, Adobe applications are very weak when it comes to proper downsampling and file size optimization for web and screen graphics. You're better off looking someplace else.

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