Photoshop-esque 'Shadows/Highlights' tool

... with Radius & Color-Correction sliders and all.
For us landscape photographers.
Tone Curve doesn't seem to cut it for me... can anyone else corroborate?
Thanks,
Rishi

Of course.
Extensively.
In every permutation/combination imaginable.
I understand the Tone Curve in quite some depth, and here's my issue with using it to dim highlights/boost shadows: *colors become desaturated*.
As we all know, when brighten or darken saturated colors, these saturated colors can lose saturation due to the introduction of colors other than the saturated color (brightening) or decrease of the saturated color's RGB value (darkening).
Which, I assume, is exactly why the 'Shadows/Highlights' tool was developed in Photoshop, with an option for 'Color-Correction'.
True, for the most part I'm pleased with gaining details out of shadows with the 'Fill Light' without too much loss of saturation. However, there is no such equivalent for selectively dimming highlights without loss of saturation.
You don't believe me? See here:
http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/Lightroom/Highlights_LossOfSaturation.jpg
Better yet, try for yourself with a full-size version of 'The Original', as pictured above, and see if you can coax the colors out of the highlights in the sky using LR. I bet you you won't be able to without some complex HSL edit (which, of course, runs the risk of changing colors *elsewhere* in your image, when your initial goal was just to get the sky more natural looking -- closer to what our eyes, with such a huge dynamic range such that highlights don't become blown-out or white, can see):
http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/FilmScans/Seattle_FullSize.jpg
I'm beginning to think that fixing skies/highlights, at least from film scans, is completely impossible in LR, and that's very disappointing. For us landscape photographers that still choose to use film, at least.
-Rishi

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