Photoshop / Indesign / Acrobat / - color match ?

I'm printing a color chart using CS4, a Mac (10.5.7), and my inkjet (HP B8850)
If Adobe and Apple made the color managment corectly, wich i assume they did, i should be able to print the same TIFF file correctly with the same colors in all the CS app. To print a chart, you're supposed to turn CM off.
So i printed the chart in Photoshop. Then i created a document where i import the TIFF file in Indesign, and choosed 'emulate indesign 2.0…'…
After experience a lot of trouble, i've understand there was a problem with Indesign CS3/CS4 and i have to choose to print as bitmap in the print settings.
See here : http://forums.adobe.com/thread/285075?tstart=0
So now i have a chart that looks exactly like the one from Photoshop. Great.
I should be able to get the same result with Acrobat Pro (9).
So ive exported my Indesign doc with no profils. Open it in Acrobat, goin to the print settings, advanced setttings and in the profil section i choose to not use profiles. I use the same settings from my printer than before. So i print and i don't get the right result (looks exactly the same as my wrong outputs from Indesign before using Bitmap !). So i felt like tryin to print as bitmap as well in Acrobat. But hell, the colors are completly different again, and quite faded.
Did i made something wrong ?
I wonder why all the color settings are so different thru all those apps ? I thought there were using the same color managment now ?!

Sorry just tripped across this thread, but here is an answer incase anyone else finds this.
Short Answer is they do, Adobe ACE. Longer Answer is you use Adobe Bridge to keep the CS Suite in sync with each other.
OS X Instructions, Sorry no Windows, should be close to the same.
To Add Photoshop Settings to all Suite Applications:
Open: Photoshop
Click; Edit --> Color Settings (cmd+shift+K)
Set your color setting the way you want them. Click Save
Save your Color Settings in: "yourusername"/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Settings/ Give it a name and description as you see fit.
Open: Adobe Bridge
Click; Edit --> Creative Suite Color Settings (cmd+shift+K) make sure your settings are in the list and selected then click Apply, it will now be available to everything in the Suite.
Your Color Settings will now be synchronized
That should solve your color inconsistancy problem moving from Application to Application within the Suite.
-Ryan

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Hello,
I've upgraded to 10.5 (printing from latest Adobe CS3 Photoshop and InDesign) to an Epson R2400 (with the latest 10.5 drivers from Epson). I let Photoshop/InDesign handle color management (rather than the printer).
Once I hit "print" from the application I'm sent to the OS X print dialogue box. From here I select my Epson settings as I always have (including turning off Epson Color Management) but now, within 10.5, there's a new OS X specific printing option listed as "Color Matching". When I select this I'm giving the options for "ColorSync" (from which I can then choose "automatic" or choose a specific printing profile — though, when I try to select one, I always get a warning saying I'll get undesirable results, and it only goes away when I select "automatic") or "Epson Color Management" (or something like that).
I do not have an option to turn these "off", I have to select one or the other.
Now, what exactly is going on here?
Which do I want to select?
I assume I would leave it to "ColorSync" since I know I don't want the printer to manage the color, but I'm just confused as to what these settings do since I'm supposed to be managing the color via Photoshop.
Can anyone shed some light onto this new option under 10.5?
Thanks!
Kristin.

Yes, very strange. If you see a few posts up I actually did get it to work the way I need it to. I called Epson and they had ne reset the printer settings through the system preferences. On my first try this did NOT work, however everything worked as it should in Preview (another image program) and since it did work there the Epson tech basically siad then it's not their problem - most likely adobe.
However just for the hell of it after I hung up, I tried resetting the printer settings again and sure enough it worked. I was able to change the color settings while using Photoshop to manage colors - namely I needed to print a B&W through the Advanced B&W setting. When they are grayed out I can't do this. But even while doing color I don't like that it's grayed out. I've been printing both color and B&W for the last 5-7 years with photosjop manageing colors. I know about double profiling and how to avoid it.
If this was by design from adobe, it deosn't make sense that I was able to access it a few weeks ago after resetting the printer settings. And if this was the case when did Adobe supposedly make the change?
I don't know what's different now, the only thing I can figure is that I had this issue sometime after I installed the lastest Epson print driver - hence the call to Epson... Maybe it's snow leopard weirdness, but I had snow leopard on my laptop and was always able to print sucessfully, but have not tried it since I got the new Mac Pro.
And the strange thing it works fine on other programs. I can have photoshop manage colors and they are not grayed out. Strange and frustrating. Time to set up the DR.
I guess I shoud uninstall PS and then try re-installing it.
thanks...

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In Photoshop I use a 'Europe Prepress 3' color setting for my images. In Indesign I use the same color settings. 'Europe Prepress 3' for RGB and Coated FOGRA 39 (ISO 12647-2:2004). The image looks the same in Photoshop as it does when placed in an Indesign document. Then I create the pdf through Indesign. When I open the pdf document in Acrobat the image looks more red than in Photoshop/Indesign. In Acrobat I've also got the exact same color settings in its preferences. Why does the girl's face on the photo look much more red in the pdf file while in Acrobat than when opened in Photoshop or viewed while placed in an Indesign document? When I open the pdf in Photoshop it looks ok again. I've got the exact same color management settings in Acrobat, Photoshop and Indesign. So what's wrong with Acrobat?

Ok, I thought using the same color management settings as in Photoshop/Indesign should make it look the same. Is there any point at changing that in Acrobat then?

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There must be a way to calibrate the colors among the CS4 software.....
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That's what 'synchronised' means... as has been mentioned. Looks like you need to read a few colour management threads.
If you are picking color from the Pantone Libraries, you can easily get mismatches even with synchronized color settings. In ID if you leave Ink Manager>Use Lab Vales unchecked, the Pantone Solid libraries are defined with CMYK values, while in Photoshop the solid swatches are always defined as Lab values. So, if you pick a color like Pantone Solid Reflex Blue in ID, and then open a Lab, RGB, or CMYK file in PS and fill with Reflex Blue from the same library, you'll never get the default ID Reflex Blue build of 100|73|0|2 whether you are sync'd or not.
If you are actually outputting spot colors—the PS color is Duotone or a channel—then Use Lab should always be checked in ID and Color Settings would have no effect because ID doesn't have spot color management.
If you restrict yourself to the Pantone Process libraries, then you can work in CMYK mode in PS and get matches. In that case color settings might come into play if you embedded a CMYK profile in PS that conflicted with your ID doc's CMYK profile, but even in that case it's the assigned profiles that matter not the current color settings.

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Looking at the current options readily accessible on Adobe.com, for students and teachers it appears that the only options are to get the entire suite for $20/month or the photographers bundle (LR + PS) for $100/year thru Aug 29, so not sure what the price would be, now, so no there is not a way to get 3 apps for cheaper than the entire suite, since there is no single-app price.
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ID 6.0.3
Trying to print to my Epson R2400 inkjet: I'm getting lousy colors and wasting an immense amount of ink toggling all the various options in trying to get a decent print.
"Color Management" has a "Color Handling" dropdown-control but it's stuck on "Let InDesign Determine Colors". I'm sure I'd get better colors with this printer if IT could manage them. How can I fix this?

(A) InDesign's print dialog is where one
is supposed to be able to print from. Saving to another app and
printing from there is counterintuitive and a total waste of time.
(B)
Yet another layer of options and settings to wade through. And print
settings in Acrobat are not, to the best of my knowledge, saved with
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store, make room for and keep track of. Not surprisingly, the
print-quality pdf I just created is substantially larger than the .indd
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Im not looking to argue the issue, but instead to maybe shine a different light on this...
(A) Agreed, you should be able to print straight from ID, but its not a waste of time. Quite the opposite. Exporting to PDF lets you FAR more accurately preflight your documents before print as well as (assuming you export using X1a compliance) flatten them properly. MANY times you will have font issues at print, printing from Indesign will leave you blind to these, as well as flattening issues AND spot color issues resulting from converting them outside of the native applications they were created in.
(B) Again, that is one way to look at it. I however see it as the Only print dialogue i ever deal with. I export everything to PDF, (AI, Quark, Indesign, photoshop everything) then print. I only need to know that one dialogue. As for print options, i just save them for different types of printing, jsut a few saved profiles will cover most prints.
(C) Cant argue here. The ID file doesnt inclued all the links so it is MUCH smaller... but also much less portable, compatable etc.
I dont use PDFs to print because i have to, i do it because in my humble opinion, the benefits are just too many to pass up.

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I have three monitors: Eizo ColorEdge CG220, 30-inch Apple Cinema Display and 17-inch Apple Studio Display.
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Using LR 2.6 RC (and 2.5) on 10.6.2, with a Z3100 and the latest drivers/firmware.
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