Photoshop or Fireworks for Web Logos?

Hi,
I just recently designed a logo for my friend Don Demaise's website: http://www.landcreationsnj.com
I used Fireworks for the logo. Would Photoshop be a better choice for web logos?
Bob

Heh heh heh, if you told Don that a re-designed logo would help drive more people to his site, I can see how this thread could help that along...
I agree with Mylenium on this - use what you're comfortable with. I use Photoshop for such things myself.
First impression, constructive criticism: The bevel lighting on the edges of the "stones" in the logo seems to make them look slightly asymmetrical. I'm not a big fan of the words reading in two different directions, either.
-Noel

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If you have any questions, email me [email protected]

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