Photoshop vs Photoshop elements -which to learn?

Hi,
I am getting started and I don't think I need the full power of Photoshop yet, but on the other hand
I want to invest my limited time wisely. If I learn to use Photoshop Elements first, will it help, hinder,
or be neutral as far as learning Photoshop later?
If it is better to just grab the bull by the horns then please let me know.
Thank you for your help.

Hello!
From what I've read, some functions are easier to perform in Elements (with help guides) while one needs to use workarounds to perform others that are not included in Elements.
It all depends if you do intend to learn Photoshop anyways... and if you will need the "full version" of Photoshop... what are you tring to do, is it only basic retouching, or will the images go to press printing?
But usually learning an Adobe Software helps in learning others, and Elements is a very close brother to Photoshop...
I would recommend paying a visit to the Photoshop elements forum for their point of view

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If you have purchased the product from Adobe (download), the serial number is registered in your account. Please login on the following page:
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I am a Creative Cloud subscriber, so I have access the the likes of Photoshop and Lightroom. I am a photographer and I also do communication design and build dynamic websites as Boldset.
My website customers, in using a website CMS (say Wordpress or Drupal) that we would have built for them, often need to be able to correct and prepare images for the web, and for this Photoshop Elements is useful. So the only reason that I download a trial copy of Photoshop Elements is to learn how to use it (easy), so that I can teach my customers how to use it, so that they ultimately buy and use this themselves.
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Greetings from Paris
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An upgrade version of a product is the full product, but it's license requires a previous version. The idea is that you already own a previous version, so you can buy an "upgrade" version at a reduced cost. When you install, the full product is installed, it does not piggy-back on a previous installation. However, when you license the product, by entering your serial number, an upgrade verification will take place. It will automatically check your computer for a qualifying product already installed. If that cannot be found, it will ask you to enter the serial number from your previous version.
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You should return this product for a full retail copy rather than an upgrade version.

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