Physical sample and physical sample drawing relationship

Dear all,
When an inspection lot is created in a inspection plan using sample drawing procedure to determine physical sample size, the following two objects created automatically.
Physical Sample Drawing Number
Physical Sample Number
The relationship between these two objects is... one physical sample drawing number can represent more than one physical sample record, am I correct?
Thanks
Karen

Physical Sample Drawing Number : it represents unique number for physical sample
Ex. if you sampled 100 pcs SAP gives Numbe Number for this 100. pcs
Physical Sample Number it gives the number for bifurgation of this qty.
Ex. out of 100 pcs 20 is physical sample 20 for pooled and remaining is reserve etc.
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Primary Sample : It is the sample drawn from the lot directly.
Pooled Sample : It is the sample whcih is combination of 2 or more primary samples.i.e. primary sample sfrom say 3 differetn drums is mixed and tested.
Reserved Sample :sample which is preserved for the testing in future.
or in other words
Primary samples (1st stage)
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Pooled samples (2nd stage)
Physical samples to be created by mixing the contents of two or more primary samples from the same material or batch.
Reserve samples
Primary physical samples drawn from a material or batch reserved for future inspection.
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Hi Experts,
Can anybody please explain me in short,
Primary sample
Pooled sample
Reserve sample
Edited by: Raja S on Jan 29, 2009 7:23 AM

Dear Raja
Primary samples
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pooled samples
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Allow the system to determine the number of physical samples automatically on the basis of a sampling scheme.
You can specify only a fixed number of reserve samples.
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SAMPLING PROCEDURE :
A procedure that contains the rules for determining the sample size for an inspection. The sampling procedure also specifies the type of valuation to use for results recording (attributive, variable, or manual).
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