PI 7.1 third-party business system and software component.

Hi,
I wish to know if it is possible to associate a third-party business system to a software version and therefore to a software component.
This is importnat for me to know it applied to teh PI 7.1. I know that for abap and java this is possible.
Any help will be well appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Giovanni

Hi,
go to SLD.......go to Business system......click on new business system to create it.........then select your technical system for third party........then tell the sw component to be linked to the third party business system........then your third party business sytem will be linked to the sw component in PI7.1.
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Rajeev Gupta

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