PI 7.4 Single Stack support for Principle Propagation SAML

Hi Folks,
Que: Does the single stack now support Principle Propagation using SAML?
The posts I have read so far conclude that SAML is only supported on the dual stack, not the single stack.
SAP Help gives steps for dual stack: Configuring Principal Propagation (SAML) - SAP Help Portal
This post from 2013 concludes no support for SAML in the single stack: PI 7.31 AEX - Principal Propagation
My time would better spent looking for an alternative solution for Principal Propagation rather than chasing something which is not supported (SAML on single stack).
Any help appreciated.
Che

Hi Che,
Please have a look at below blog
Principal Propagation using SAP Assertion Ticket CRM -> PO7.31 Single Stack
regards,
Harish

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