PI Pipeline Doubt : Pipeline Steps in ABAP stack and JAVA stack
Hello
Can anyone please assist me with which stages steps of the PI Pipeline are executed on the Java or the ABAP stack.
Receiver Determination
Interface Determination
Message Split
Message Mapping
Technical routing
Call Adapter
Also can anyone please provide links relating to the PI architecture diagram describing it from ABAP and Java Stack Perspective and not from the Components perspective i.e. Integration Repository and Directory.
Thanks.
Kiran
Hi
Tha ABAP stack consists of the Integration Server which in turn contains your Integration Engine and Business Process Engine.
The J2EE stack contains the Adapter Engine and your IR and ID run on the J2EE engine.
Most of XI pipelines happens in the ABAP stack.
All messsages picked by the Adapter Framework running on the J2EE engine are passed to the Integration Engine, which does the routing. The mapping program again gets executed on the Java stack and the rest of the pipeline servies are executed again on the ABAP stack and so on.
Message, Java & XSLT (under Imported Archives) mappings are executed at Java stack;
ABAP & XSLT (in ABAP stack) mappings are executed at ABAP stack.
PI Architecture look threads
Architecture
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> I have installed two separate ABAP and Java Stacks and trying to connect both the stacks together.
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