Pick Pack Time and Route

Hello Everyone,
I know that Pick and pack times are using the Shipping point working times or calendar.
Just to confirm, can I say that Pick / pack time cannot be derived from the Route?
regards
John

This is really depends on what value you set in the field Determine Pick/Pack time in the shipping point definition. If value A is selected then the pick/pack time becomes route dependant.
By definition the pick/pack time is the time in days that is required for allocating goods to a delivery as well as the time in days that is required for picking and packing. It is calculated using the shipping point, the route, and the weight group of the order item. (from help.sap.com at http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dd/5607e7545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm). So the route can impact the pick/pack time.
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Step: 6 - Define Transportation Zone
Path: Sprou2014Logistics Executionu2014Transportationu2014Basic Transportation Function---Routesu2014Route Determinationu2014Define Transportation Zone.
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Route can be determined in sales order with the help of 5 parameters: depart country, shipping conditions in customer master record, transportation group in material master, destination country, and weight group.
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SPRO > Routes Basic shipping functions  Shipping -LE -
Define Routes:
Define mode of transportation
Define shipping types.
Assign shipping types to mode of transportation.
Define Routes and Stages
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Define Transportation Zones
Maintain Country And Transportation Zone For Shipping Point
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d) Destination country/Transportation zone maintained in General view -Address of Customer master of Ship to Party
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Shipping is an important part of the logistics chain in which guaranteed customer service and distribution planning support play major roles.
In shipping processing, all delivery procedure decisions can be made at the start of the process by
Taking into account general business agreements with your customer
Recording special material requests
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, the outbound delivery supports all shipping activities including picking, packing, transportation and goods issue. During the outbound delivery process, shipping-planning information is recorded, status of shipping activities is monitored and data accumulated during shipping processing is documented. When the outbound delivery is created, the shipping activities, such as picking or delivery scheduling, are initiated, and data that is generated during shipping processing is included in the delivery.
Range of Functions
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With reference to a sales order
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Without any reference
Depending on your requirements, you can create outbound deliveries automatically using worklists, or manually. You can make agreements with your customers for complete and partial deliveries and for order combinations. Outbound deliveries can be combined to form a single group of deliveries.
As soon as the material availability date or the transportation scheduling date for a schedule line is reached, the schedule line becomes due for shipping. When you create an outbound deliver, you initiate shipping activities such as picking and transportation scheduling.
A delivery is processed through one shipping point. Which shipping point carries out the processing for a delivery can be determined automatically during order processing or you can specify it manually in the order.
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Checks the order and materials to make sure the outbound delivery is possible (for example, it checks for delivery blocks or incompleteness)
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Calculates work expenditure
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Checks the delivery situation of the order and any partial delivery agreements
Redetermines the route
Adds information relevant for export
Checks delivery scheduling and changes deadlines (if necessary)
Assigns a picking location
Carries out batch determination (if material is to be handled in batches)
Creates an inspection lot if the material must pass a quality check
Updates sales order data and changes order status
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The shipping conditions from the customer master record (Shipping screen)
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The loading group from the material master record (Sales/Plant Data screen)
You could, for example, specify a loading group that defines that the goods must always be loaded with a crane or a forklift.
The delivering plant
A route can be determined for every order item. Determining the route in the sales order depends on the following factors:
Country and departure zone of the shipping point
Shipping condition from the sales order
For example, it might have been agreed with the customer that the goods are to be delivered as soon as possible.
Transportation group from the material master record (Sales/Plant Data screen)
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Country and transportation zone of the ship-to party (Control screen in the customer master record)
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Procedure
To create an individual outbound delivery, proceed as follows:
From shipping, choose Outbound Delivery ® Create ® Single Document ® With Reference to Sales Order.
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Specify the selection date.
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The current date is proposed by the system as the selection date.
If you only want to deliver some of the order items, specify the appropriate item numbers in the from item and to item fields.
Select Enter.
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