Picking Dummy Profit center in GL simulation

Hi,
We are using ECC 6.0 and New GL is activated.
My user has a problem booking outgoing manual payments to vendor customer accounts when there is no invoice. Profit center is obligatory while booking the payment. But even after selecting the proper profit center and simulating the GL , system shows Dummy profit center.
Requesting to help out.
Regards,
makrand

1st pass
Vendor A/c Dr
to Bank Clearing Cr.
In this bank clearing will inherit profit center from the vendor you are clearing.
Then you pass
Bank Clearing Dr
To Bank Cr. In this bank will inherit profit center from bank clearing account. Hope in second entry you are posting as well as clearing the bank clearing account.
Also check
SPRO > Financial Accounting > General Ledger Accounting > Business Transaction > Document Splitting > Activate Document Splitting
Make sure that "inheritance" is checked.

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