Pictures in older text messages now have question marks

Seems after upgrading to 8.11, older text messages with pictures have had the pictures replaced by question marks. I have googled and tried resetting network settings and stuff like that to no avail. Current and new messages seem to be fine, seems to affect messages that were received while on 7.x  I just updated to 8.12 and the issue still persists.
Any ideas?
Thanks

Check: Settings - Messages - MMS Messaging = On

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