Pictures upload too dark?

Well, every time I make something on my Photoshop Elements 4.0, the colors look exactly how I want them on the program itself. But whenever I attempt to upload them anywhere on the web, the colors appear MUCH too dark. So, to remedy I figured I would send them to MSPaint, but then when I uplaod them from a file saved on there, the colors come out much to light. I have no idea what's going on! Does anybody have any suggestions as to what I should do?

Could you explain how are you trying to upload photos to the web using PSE4 ?

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Exported black/white pictures are too dark

Hi,
My exported black and white pictures are too dark. I checked the pictures and the exif info contains information about the color profile RGB and sRGB (see below), but still the browsers (firefox and safari) ignore this and display the pictures way to dark. Is there a way to fix this? firefox has color management enabled and safari probably too. As for firefox: there are probably users that do not have color management enabled and it should work for them as well.
Could the problems be due to the reduced 8bit color depth of jpeg?
Any suggestions are highly welcome.
Thanks!
Color Space Data
: RGB
Profile Connection Space
: XYZ
Profile Date Time
: 1998:02:09 06:49:00
Profile File Signature
: acsp
Primary Platform
: Microsoft Corporation
CMM Flags
: Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer
: IEC
Device Model
: sRGB
Device Attributes
: Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent
: Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant
: 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator
: HP
Profile ID
: 0
Profile Copyright
: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company
Profile Description
: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Media White Point
: 0.95045 1 1.08905
Media Black Point
: 0 0 0
Red Matrix Column
: 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
Green Matrix Column
: 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
Blue Matrix Column
: 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
Device Mfg Desc
: IEC http://www.iec.ch
Device Model Desc
: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
Viewing Cond Desc
: Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1

Thanks a lot for helping me to track this down. Looking at EXIF information with EXIF tool I get:
Profile CMM Type
: Lino
Profile Version
: 2.1.0
Profile Class
: Display Device Profile
Color Space Data
: RGB
Profile Connection Space
: XYZ
Profile Date Time
: 1998:02:09 06:49:00
Profile File Signature
: acsp
Primary Platform
: Microsoft Corporation
CMM Flags
: Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer
: IEC
Device Model
: sRGB
Device Attributes
: Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent
: Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant
: 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator
: HP
Profile ID
: 0
Profile Copyright
: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company
Profile Description
: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Media White Point
: 0.95045 1 1.08905
Media Black Point
: 0 0 0
Red Matrix Column
: 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
Green Matrix Column
: 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
Blue Matrix Column
: 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
Device Mfg Desc
: IEC http://www.iec.ch
Device Model Desc
: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
Viewing Cond Desc
: Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1
Viewing Cond Illuminant
: 19.6445 20.3718 16.8089
Viewing Cond Surround
: 3.92889 4.07439 3.36179
Viewing Cond Illuminant Type
: D50
Luminance
: 76.03647 80 87.12462
Measurement Observer
: CIE 1931
Measurement Backing
: 0 0 0
Measurement Geometry
: Unknown (0)
Measurement Flare
: 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant
: D65
Technology
: Cathode Ray Tube Display
Red Tone Reproduction Curve
: (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve   : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Blue Tone Reproduction Curve
: (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
XMP Toolkit
: Image::ExifTool 9.53
Doesn't this include the profile? I use Metadata wrangler and creative commons and morgify as plugins, but these shouldn't interfere with the profile, should they? I also experimented with disabling the metadata wrangler (by clicking disable), but this did not have any effect.
Thanks a lot!
Stefan

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My pictures printed from Iphoto 5 are too dark, I have tried my home printer, kodak, and Fuji. The results are the identical. However, when I import the same pictures in Photoshop CS they print just fine.
I am now having the Aperture 2.1.1 "trial" and i have the same exact problem with my home printer. In addition, some of the pictures (not all of them)are not sharp, they seem out of focus. I have exported the same pictures to my desktop and printed them with "Graphic Converter". The pictures are much better, but i still get a few which seem to be out of focus. I then took the same desktop images and used Photoshop Elements 6 ( also on trial)to print them. Photoshop is printing the pictures correctly (photoshop elements 6 does not have a printing profile for Mac's and the printing is managed by the printer's HP software). I must be missing a printer setting when using the Apple programs. My Aperture colorsync setting is set to "HP D7300 premium plus".I have a 1.8 Ghz G5, OSX 10.4.11, and an HP D7360 printer. Can anyone give me an idea of what i am doing wrong?

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in LR the Profile I made for this special paper/printer is selected.
It's the latest 9800 printer driver, downloaded just a few days ago.
I came across the endless threads on maybe the same subject only some hours ago. (
Sean McCormack, "Printing Problems in Lightroom" #70, 26 Feb 2007 6:19 pm) Tried the trick with chosing the 9800 as default printer, but it didn't help. The printer settings tell me the profile used is: *systemstandard* (that's german: some sort of default (standard) of the system. Maybe it's the same as the "generic RGB profile" mentioned, but I'm not sure.
I also print from LR on a G5 to an Epson Stylus Pro 3800 via USB with absolutely no problems.
Here I want to print from Lightroom on an Intel Duo Core to a networked printer, the 9800.
I'd LOVE first of all to get a somehow *canonical* statement that printing on a networked printer from Lightroom is possible, Yes or No. (As I said before, it is no problem from PS CS3)
If the common experience is, that one cannot print from LR to a networked (Epson pro) printer, then I'll surely not go on reading tons of discussions to find the needle in the hay.
@ Donna: I'd be very grateful for any suggestions!
@ Andreas: certainly the printer driver on the networked Mac G4 the Epson 9800 is attached to is older than the one on my Intel Mac. Is that what you mean? I'll try to fix that.
@ dyp: the profile shown in the printer setting is: *systemstandard* (system default, in german). Looked up Color Sync in the library, I find the profiles folder, but nothing to chose any profile as my default. Where do you do that in Color Sync?
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Deleting Photoshop preferences/settings (in both PSE 4.0 and CS5)
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As I said before, this problem seems to have popped up out of nowhere. My artwork from before the whole saving-too-dark issue began still displays perfectly in most programs, but the rest is totally hit-and-miss. If any of you have fixes or suggestions (even suggestions on adjusting Photoshop so that my images display more consistently in browsers and other programs) I would be extremely grateful.
Thanks so much for your time,
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Though you have solved your problem, be aware, that different applications have different ways to interpret color profiles that can be set in different ways.
Example:
In Firefox, you can either set a color profile or not -- AFAIK, it only works with v2 ICC profiles (vs. v4, v3 seems to have not been released).
From that point, you can set perceptual, absolute, colormetric, or one other...(forget)... but usually you just set that to perceptual for monitor work as I understand it. Then a 3rd FF setting (all in its registry, of course, though occasionally there are extensions that let you manage the three settings. They correspond to values (accessible through 'about:config' in FF's address window), all under the prefix:
"gfx.color_management."
"display_profile" - text string of file containing a v2 ICC profile, usually in "C:\Windows\System32\Spool\drivers\color\" (at least on Win7) -- extention ".icm"
"mode" -- when to turn it on (2=for pics that have profiles set, another is for always (1?)), maybe 0=off?
"rendering_intent" - this corresponds to perceptual, abs, colormetric, types, I think 0=perceptual (default)
for FF, if you google one of those values, you'll find more info on some mozillian-type site... "prefix<keyname>" (e.g. - gfx.color_management.display_profile ).
Other progs may have their own or if we are lucky would use the system profile & color management system (assuming it is any good).
Getting an accurate monitor profile and keeping it updated as your monitor 'decays' (i.e. color is usually best when new, then they decay, w/useful life at max gamut ~ 18 months (in my experience), after that, you can still retune to the same white point, but with a loss of gamut due to the phosphors decaying at different rates).
It's best to use some sort of external calibration HW... -- as an external device looking at your monitor through it's various colors is the only way to get a 'digitally objective' measurement. That said, I always have concerns about the stability of the measuring device over time. Does it have components that that could cause non-linear measurement? Am guessing not as likely, as it isn't emitting anything so less wear & tear, but I wouldn't assume it's 100% accurate over time either (but certainly is better than one's own eye which can gradually adjust to just about anything). I had a viewsonic when I first got my current color device (a Spyder3), and it had gone from an original white point of 6500K down to 5700K -- and I had not noticed the difference (over 18-20 months)...
I could bring it back in range, but had lost gamut, and was a bit below the sRGB (consumer grade) standard (which is some fractional
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The result of all this -- I never really know how my images will look on other monitors, but I try to tag them w/my current monitor profile, hoping that if they care about color, they'll have some SW on their end that can make sense of it...but given my own experience in how SW on the same system handles color differently, I wouldn't say they were 'high hopes'... ;-)

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