Piecing together a track from multiple takes

Hi,
When trying to piece together a track from a number of takes, using the split function to do so, I'm finding that parts of my new track seem to disappear. By the time I make a third or fourth cut to a different take, an earlier take suddenly is audioless. As a result, I can't make a complete track out of multiple takes because with each split, I lose part of what I did before. Any ideas? thanks!

The easiest way? The easiest way is probably to control-click on the comp and do a Flatten & Merge, though that will loose you all takes except the active one. If you don't want that, you can Export the active take to a new track (also in the control-click menu).
http://help.apple.com/logicpro/mac/10/#lgcpb1998a98

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