Pitch Change fix for 24p NTSC to PAL Conversion

Anyone here have a decent tutorial for Audacity or Soundtrack Pro to fix 4% pitch change caused from 24p NTSC to PAL conversion? I don't have Protools. Thanks!
Alexander

In the Project tab of STP (top left pane) there is an Audio PullUp/PullDown menu. You should find the preset you need in there.

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    If you think of your time as worth, oh $50/hr then all you need to do is save 2hrs and the software has paid for itself. Any speed increases after that are pure profit.
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    Format profile                           : QuickTime
    Codec ID                                 : qt 
    File size                                : 168 GiB
    Duration                                 : 2h 18mn
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 173 Mbps
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2014-09-08 17:29:17
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2014-09-08 20:14:37
    Writing library                          : aapl
    ©TIM                                     : 00:00:00:00
    ©TSC                                     : 2997
    ©TSZ                                     : 125
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    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : ProRes
    Format version                           : Version 0
    Format profile                           : High
    Codec ID                                 : apch
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    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 173 Mbps
    Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
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    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
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    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
    Scan type                                : Progressive
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    Stream size                              : 168 GiB (100%)
    Writing library                          : Apple
    Language                                 : English
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2014-09-08 17:29:17
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2014-09-08 17:29:17
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    ID                                       : 2
    Type                                     : Time code
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    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60864
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    Paul
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