Place AI / PDF with a bleed

Hi,
We have some artwork created in Illustrated, and the image extends off the page to create the 'bleed'
We need to place these images in to Indesign, and keep the bleed - however, when placing the file into indesign, it seems to always crop the image down to the page size of the illustrator file, and lose the bleed.
any suggestions on this?
Thanks

jonshutt,
Do you check Show Import Options when you place ai/pdf? There are Options: Crop To. Choose Bleed.
HTH
Boyan
P.S. I'm with CS3, but as I remember in CS2 things were the same.
Edit: Sorry, but Bob is right. The workaround is on the Illustrator side. I prefer to place pdfs instead and that's why I made the mistake above.
Maybe you can print ai files from Illy to PDF with Crop Artwork: Artwork Bounding Box and then place the pdf in InDesign as described above.

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