Placed image scale anomaly

A funny thing happened on my way to the theatre ...
Some days ago I placed an image into an Illie file, linked, 100% scale.
This morning I needed to edit the linked file in Photoshop. This involved cropping a bit off the bottom of it, thereby changing its dimensions.
Just to check that everything was still o.k. at the Illie end (because I somehow suspected that it might not be), I opened the Illie file.
Lo and behold, everything was not o.k. The placed image had scaled itself up by some few % becoming too wide.
Rather than fiddle around with scaling, I placed the image again and it came in in the right size.
I notice that exactly the same thing happens when I have Illie open while I am editing the image. The placed image hops visibly when Illie reads the new size.
Can anyone tell me why this is and how does Illie recognise the size of placed images?
Does she calculate the area or what is it that happens?
Here's an example that I tried afterwards, not having kept the original measurements:
Original image file 63.218 x 47.414 mm (placed in Illie at 100% scale)
Cropped in PS to 63.218 x 44.027 mm
Changes in Illie to 64.846 x 45.161 mm (scale 102.576%)
I can't make sense of the figures. Is anyone out there better at maths than I am? (Sure there must be!)

When you update a link, then image is scaled to fit the original bounding box size because of the default in the links palette >> placement options >> transforms
Links palette >> placement options>> dimensions should help. What I do not like most of these options later have blank sapce around the image, and it is hard to use the transform palette or snapping to for example snap to the edge of a die or guide.
I replace the image after the canvas size changes in photoshop, cause placement options though it has been around forever is not really that useful. Maybe someone else out there agrees/disagrees or has a different way to deal with this updating of resized images in Illustrator

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Acrobat worked, thanks for that advice. I set my Convert to Profile under the Edit Menu to Color
Match RGB. That helped a little bit but it is not printing like the
pdf. I would like to get this problem resolved. I normally use
illustrator most of my work. But I would like to have InDesign working
properly as I need it to do other jobs.
Take Care,
Jen
Take Care,
Jen
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:24:47 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: My InDesign program is printing my placed images lighter than illustrator.
Jen,
This is a problem that you have no time to fool with, correct?
When printing from InDesign and all looks hopeless, export to PDF and print from the PDF.
Why?
I don't know for sure but it seems all printers made recently accept PDF better than straight from InDesign. It could be the printer driver and it could be InDesign but you don't have time to mess with it now. Wait for some free time to sort it out, but for now output to PDF and print from Adobe Reader or Acrobat.
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