Places Tags in Elements 13

Is there any way to input place names directly rather than having to go through the map. A lot of my pictures are not near any meaningful place names, yet the map insists on writing down a place name. Also, it takes too long.

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Places Tagging in Elements 12

I converted all of my 16,000 photos from Elements 8 to Elements 12. In Elements 8, I made up my own "Places" set of tags -- about 500 of them. Not all places are mappable. If I don't have an exact location, I may have to put something like Virginia. Many of the photos have been scanned in at high resolution because I only have the old photo and I may not know the exact location. Some locations change - new restaurant or winery name. Elements 8 gave me the ability to search and find places on a map but with 16,000 photos and 500+ places, that was not practical. When I imported my "Place" tags into Elements 12, it accepted them - fabulous! Thank you. But then when I went to add a new "Places" tag to MY list, I was forced to use the mapping function. Have any of your programmers heard of backward compatibility? This is incredibly annoying! Having the new type of tagging function is fine but PLEASE give another alternative to allow custom "Place" tags. I am sorry I bought the new version because of this. Also, I realized that the general "Keyword" tag structure allows me to build customized tags but did I mention that I have 16,000 photos already tagged with over 500 personalized "Place" tags - your accepted my tags and preserved months of work - JUST GIVE ME A WAY TO ADD MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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if you allow
Not me. I, like most of the people on this forum, am just a regular user (nothing to do with Adobe) trying to help others out.
I don't know of any way of doing what you are asking. The catalog itself is an sqlite database so if you know any sqlite experts they may be able to compare the two structures (the format has change between each release because of new features) and see if they can feed back the v12 changes to your v8 catalog.
Cheers,
Neale
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How do i convert old elements places tags to elements 12 places tags?

I have spent over 10 years organizing almost 9000 photos and videos using Adobe Photoshop Album and Adobe Photoshop Elements Organizer.
I recently upgraded to Elements 12, and I am trying to tag my vacation photos. I tried to add a new Places tag. That resulted in me becoming extremely aggravated.
I had created dozens of places tags in several categories of places. I used a logical approach for organizing places, instead of using a strict geographical hierarchy.
Now Elements 12 will only let me add new Places tags by searching a Google map, and the new tags are forced against my will into a strict geographical hierarchy. So, while that is not what I'm used to, it at least makes sense.
Where I get really aggravated is that Elements 12 does not provide any way to upgrade all my existing tags to the new hierarchy. I can go to each existing Places tag and associate it with a map location, but it does not move (or allow me to copy/move) it to the new strict geographical hierarchy. So, as I move forward with Elements Organizer, I'm stuck with part of my collection tagged with my pre-12 scheme and the other part tagged with your 12-onward scheme. It will get to be very confusing when I go to tag photos and I have dig back and forth between the two schemes to find the tag to use. Why was it so critically important to not let long-term, loyal customers keep doing it the way they have been doing it for so many years????

It not be so bad if Adobe's geo-hierarchy was consistent with itself. However when I created some British place tags, some counties (e.g. Cornwall) were placed within the England tag, whereas other counties (Derbyshire, North Yorkshire) were placed one level up, within the United Kingdom tag. They should all be within England (within United Kingdom), or they should all be within United Kingdom, which would make the England tag redundant. Some other towns and villages that I added, did not get their county-level tag at all, and are consequently "children" of the England tag. It really is nonsensical.

How to organize Places tags in Elements 12

Hi
I have assigned pictures to several different locations in Colorado using the Photoshop Elements 12 Organizer. Most of these locations are listed under "Colorado" category but one location persistantly lists under "CO". I have the same issue with "Utah" and "UT".
I can rename the "CO" to "Colorado" but then I have two cateogories of "Colorado" when I would like all the locations in Colorado to be listed under the same category. I have deleted and reasigned without sucess.
Is there a way to edit these tag names so that they nest appropriately? Maybe a 'work around' or something?
Thanks for any thoughts!

Use one of the selection tools to select the foreground.
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Elements 11 vs 13: how can I add a new place tag to my PSE13 database without using the wretched and totally inadequate map technology that Elements 13 wants to impose.

HI,
I have recently installed Elements 13 having used Elements 11.0 successfully to build a database of 30,000 plus images indexed by place, people, and photo date. Elements 11 allowed me to add new places which are meaningful to me but which are a complete mystery to the mapping technology of Elements 13. For example some years ago I lived in London in a road called Argyle Road. In elements 11 I could enter the place tag as Argyle Road. In Elements 13 I am required to locate Argyle Road on the map, but the map presupposes that the Argyle Road I am referring to is in Ealing in West London. It is not!
I now live in a place called Broadsands but the Elements 13 Map places this 0.5 miles away from what I would describe as Broadsands.
So the question: how can I add a new place tag to my database without using the wretched and totally inadequate map technology that Elements 13 wants to impose.

Thank you for your quick response, BalusC. I really appreciate your answer.
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PS Elements Event and place tags

I upgraded from 7 to 11 and don't understand what happened to my event and place tags. Do I have to do all of that work again? Don't they just transfer as my people tags did?

Deborah,
In order to use the image on a web site, you must save it in a format that supports the transparent background. PSD, TIFF, PNG, PNG-24, GIF, EPS support transparency. JPG, BMP do not. Most likely you want GIF since this is supported by most web browsers.

Place tags and how can I turn off mapping?

I upgraded to Photoshop Elements 12. Really like most of the changes, but really don't like how I seem to have lost control over place tags. I don't want anything to do with mapping. How do I turn it off? I want to manage place tags the way I have for years now, i.e. I want to create my own categories and subcategories and arrange them in an order that makes sense to me--not to someone elses idea of how things should be organized. I'm hoping that I'm just overlooking how to turn off the mapping feature. Any ideas?

If you've only recently changed and not added much to PSE12 your best bet is to rename 'Places' in your old version to 'My Places' then convert the catalog again. Then they will come across just like in the old version and you can completely ignore the new PSE12 methodology.
Cheers,
Neale
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How do I subdivide "Places" tags?

On Premiere Elements 12, I have some "Places" tags that I were generated on earlier versions of Photoshop Elements. E.g. a tag for "House". I used to be able to subdivide this tag into "Garage" or "Kitchen", etc. Now, I can only rename, delete, or place it on the map. I can not add a sub tag to it. Is this correcct?
How do I subdivide Place tags?

Reg1987
In Elements Organizer 12
House Category
and, after clicking on 3 New Category in above screenshot, is seen after typing in House
After clicking OK to Create Category dialog, House is now one of the Keywords categories along with Nature, Color, Photography, and Other.
For House sub-category of Kitchen...right click House in the list of categories
And, after clicking on 2 Create new sub-category in the third screenshot, is seen the following after typing in Kitchen
After clicking OK to Create Sub-Category dialog, Kitchen is now one of the House sub-categories
If sub-category under Kitchen is required, right click Kitchen and select create new sub-category. And, so on.....
If a new category is wanted to join House and the rest, go to and click the triangle at the top right of the line that displays the header name Keywords.
Please review and then let us know if you are OK with the details. Double check for any typing errors. Should be OK. Have proofread several times already.
Thanks.
ATR

Is there a way for GPS coordinates to override a 'places' tag when viewing photos on the map?

I like to have 'places' tags for all of my photos in Elements Organizer so I can filter photos without the map view. The problem is that some of my photos already have GPS information from my camera. When I tag a photo that has EXIF geo data with a 'places' tag, it moves the photo on the map to the less specific lat/long of the tag and no longer uses the lat/long of the photo itself. I would like to use the data EXIF data from the photo, if it exists, rather than the lat/long from the places tag.
Alternately, it would be cool if Elements would auto-create places tags based on the lat/long from a photos EXIF data. That would also solve my conflict between places tags and EXIF data from the photo.
Any ideas? Am I out of luck?

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When I imported an AE3 catalog into AE11 I lost Event & Place tags associ. with photos

Please help! I had been using Adobe Elements 3 for many years. Finally I bought Adobe Elements 11. I backed up my Adobe Elements 3 (in XP Mode) catalog. Then I chose 'Restore Catalog' in Adobe Elements 11 to restore the catalog. I had to reconnect all my photos (>6000), which took a while.
Unfortunately although my old 'keywords' were imported they aren't all associated with photos.
What worked: the old 'Favorites' were converted to Stars, and any tags in the 'Other' category were retained.
What didn't work: all tags in the 'Events' or 'Places' categories.
The only thing I can think of to fix this would be to change all my event and places tags to the 'other' category then backup the catalog and import it again. Hopefully I wouldn't have to reconnect all the photos again.
Any other suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!

I had some symtoms like yours, but I'd first filtered by People while I was looking for Places and Events tags. I opened the Tag Info, clicked on Places and got "no media:" because I was actually combining the place with a person. Places and Events tags worked if I first clicked "media" to show all my pictures, which effectively cleared other tag selections. Try doing that and then click on one or more arrows next to the tags. The displayed pictures should filter more with each tag you click.
I don't get the user model in PSE 11 though. It puts a check by keyword tags in a narrow horizontal frame at the top of the screen, and that seems like the only place where you can uncheck the filters. That space is cramped, and hard to scan if you have a long tag list. It seems more obvious to me to just mark a check by the tag info items themselves in the vertical colums on the right, like PSE 7. Plus it shows places and events tags under keywords, with blank spaces in the main Places and Events boxes. Plus you can highlight a folder under "My Folders", collapse the list and forget you aren't seeing all media. It's confusing at best.

How do I reorganize places tags?

I've been on Elements since before it was called Elements, continually upgrading and importing "the last catalog" into the new version.
I'm on Elements 11 at the moment (yes, a few revs behind) and my "Places" tags - imported from previous versions - are organized much as my keywords are - major category is Places, subcategories (like "Trips", "Schools", etc) and then the actual tag itself.
For example, at the highest level I have Keywords Tags, People Tags, Places Tags, and Events tags. Then under Places I have subcategories as outlined above. Then under (say) the Trips subcategory I have tags like "Backpacking," "Skiing", "Scuba", etc.
I just tried to create my first new Place tag. First, it seems to require that a place on the map be picked. I may not want to do that - the tag may not be associated with a specific place (like "Skiing" might be to different places. I did that anyway just to mvove this along - the process of creating the tag and choosing a place on the map went well and I now have the new Place tag, however the normal process left it sitting in the highest level hierarchy under Places - at what I consider the "subcategory level" rather than the tag level.
I've tried to figure out how to move it, or even create a new tag directly under the existing subcategories, but the system isn't allowing me to do that (there are no options to do either.)
Does EVERY new "Places" tag have to live at the highest level under Places? Is there NO way to organize them? What if I wanted a subcategory called "Spain" and then tags under it called "Madrid" or "Barcelona", for instance...? Seems like there's got to be a way.

Anyone? Is this something that might possibly be fixed in 12 or 13...?

Is it possible to create "places" tags without the maping feature?

Is it possible to create "places" tags without the maping feature? I updated from PSE 10 (where I created my own list of "places,") to PSE 12, where "places" seems to require the mapping feature. I would prefer not to use the map, and stick to my old way.
Thanks for any help!
Tom

Apparently, not only is the mapping feature required, but once the GPS-loaded Place tag is created, it is not listed in alphabetical order with other place tags. It is listed by country, then by state, then by title!! !! VERY irritating!! And what if I want to create a place tag (of which I already have many) which does not have a recognizeable address, like, say, Grandmother's House? VERY irritating.
And if I use the Keyword feature to create Place tags, they will be in an entirely separate list from the other Place tags. VERY irritating!
Who designed this upgrade? I will soon start looking for an alternative, though I have used Photoshop Organizer for years and have thousands of photos in it. My upgrade to PSE 12 has caused me nothing but headaches.

How do I transfer all tags from Elements 8 to 11?

How do I transfer all tags from Elements 8 to 11? Only part of the tags transferred for elements 8 to 11. I'm using Windows 7.

It depends...
If you are still on the same computer and OS, the Organizer in PSE11 (or PSE12) will be able to convert the old catalog to its own format, while keeping the old catalog unchanged.
If you are changing computer, drive or OS, the best method is via a full backup and restore:
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.html

Place tags in PSE 12

I am getting more and more frustrated by recent changes after having to update to PSE 12 from PSE 8 after a friend updated my computer system.
I am seventy seven and not compouter literate but I do try very hard to understand how things work
I have discovered after help from others how to add a tag to a place name but I have to do that via a world map which I do not like as it apprears in the Place tags as UK then a drop down with the new place tag.
Here is an attemot at a screen shot of the problem and how I would like tags to appear in futrure. ie as Strumpshwa, Titchwell etc NOT as UK>England>West Tisted. Do hope I have explained myself clearly so that someone can help.
IN PSE 8 it was so simple
Nobody more surpruied than me to see this screen shot appear
Over to you please for simple instructiosn.
Thank you,
Brian.

Hi Neileh,
Thank you so much for all your suggestions but I think I have finally reached terminal despair .
I did try and send an email to PSE but they seem to me to have a contemptible approach to users and I could not find how to send an email to PSE but kept being returned to forums.
Fir the time being I have had enough and I am growing more depressed by the lack of customer support and could not recommend the programme to others.
It may of course just be my ignorance of computers but I cannot be alone and so I am left with my present experience that PSE staff are unhelpful.
Huge thanks to you for taking so much trouble and I feel I have let you down for which I apologies.
The adding of PLACES in the Keyword drop down list is a palliative to my mind and not a cure for the problem as reasonable users would expect.
Please if you crack it please email me.
Warmest regards,
Brian

Customize Place Names in Elements 11

Hello,
I would like to customize the names of Places as I assign them. For instance, I know that this set of pictures was take at the House on the Rock in Wisconsin. Under the "Places" tab, it's listed as 5754 State Road 23 in Spring Green Wisconsin. I'll never remember that this is the ADDDRESS for the House on the Rock, so I want to change the listing to something that will make sense to me as I use the column search function (something logical like: "House on the Rock, Spring Green, Wisconsin")
Is it possible to edit the Place tags?
Thanks for your help!
--Michael Mascari

No. You cannot rename a location marked on Map. The name that appears will be the same as it appears on map.

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