Plain text ON but anything pasted in is RTF

Hello,
I often need to quote bits of text from a heavily-formatted Word doc in emails. Every time I paste a bit of text into an email, it goes in with all its formatting intact, which I don't want. I want it to be plain text like the rest of the email message.
In Mail's Prefs I have set my composing preference to be Plain Text, but this doesn't make any difference.
Also, all of my signatures appear in some sort of style rather than as plain text, even though I always set them to plain text when I create them.
Seems Mail thinks it knows better than I do how to format my emails. I hate it when applications take over like that.
Does anyone know the secret to turning off this "feature" in Mail?
Thanks
iMac Intel Core 2 Duo Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Now that you ask, I find the situation is even stranger than I thought.
New compose window, Format menu says Make Rich Text
Copy formatted text from Word, paste in (Command-V). It appears as plain text, menu stays the same.
Paste in same text using Shift-Command-V to give a quote level, and it comes in with all formatting intact, but menu stays the same.
Paste it in (Coammnd-V) and use the Format menu to increase its quote level and it stays plain text.
Looks like I'll have to do the two-step to get what I want. Or switch to another app I suppose. But I like Mail.
Rob

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