Plan-driven procument - ERP, EBP, SUS ?

Hi,
If we use plan-driven procurement, techincal scenario Classic should be used, then it's MM-SUS, current status is, "PR, convert PR into PO" all done in MM (ERP), then transfer to SUS, my question is, could I display and change these POs in EBP?
Regards
jack

Hello,
PDP scenario:
1. PR in ECC - Send to SRM for sourcing - RFx in SRM - PO in ECC
2. PO in ECC - Transfer to SUS
3. Change in PO in ECC - Transfer to SUS - Change displayed in SUS
Classic scenario : PO is created in ECC & doesnot exist in SRM, but PO will be transferred to SUS & vendor can view the changes.
Hope this heps.
Thanks
Ashutosh

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We are planning to implement EBP-SUS scenario for PO.
My Question is Can we use EBP-SUS scenario for material PO,POR and ASN
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Also if anyone has config settings document for this scenaio then I would appreciate
if they can share with me Priyasinghsap at gmail
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hi,
for #1, the scenario will be EBP-SUS/ Extended Classic.
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We are planning to implement EBP-SUS and MM-SUS in one Client . Request you to help us on the following issues.
1. While the outbound messages will not have a problem from MM & EBP, how do we route inbound messages to MM & EBP effectively. Should be handle it in XI ?? If ues, what is the best criteria .
2. Since both the config guides for MM-SUS and EBP-SUS scenarios include transactions for transferring Vendor & Comapny Code data, how do we check duplication.For ex : if we transfer a Vendor from R/3 and subsequently try to transfer the same vendor from EBP , is there any inbuilt duplicate check ?
3. In MM-SUS, an ASN created in SUS creates an inbound delivery is created in MM. What would happen in case of EBP-SUS i.e when an ASN is created for an EBP PO ? We are on extended classic scenario ?
4.If you do a confirmation in EBP-SUS, will a GR be generated in both EBP and subsequently in MM.
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Hi
Welcome to world of SRM.
I guess, you must have got enough details in the SRM guides.
Anyways, better to understand the basics first,, before going in detail. I hope this will answer all your queries.
Refer to these links ->
Supplier Enablement
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/cd/0e343e47fd6b2ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm
SUS-EBP Scenario
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/06/0f343e47fd6b2ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm
SUS-MM Scenario
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/39/0f343e47fd6b2ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Supplier Self-services
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/25/99b13c48740d55e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Procurement
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/8e/e5623c046a9b67e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Users in SRM user Management
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/cd/6313513813554e941a02a91540c29e/frameset.htm
Please try this SAP OSS notes as well to get System architecture details->
Note 982871 - Consulting services: supplier integration in SRM
963000 - Usage and release of SRM as AddOn to ECC in ERP2005
868192 - Consulting solution: SUS-MM (SUS-MMSRV) service procurement
573383 - EBP and SUS deployment variants
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Check whether the roles delivered by SAP meet your requirements. If not, you can create new roles and assign transactions to them. We recommend that you copy standard roles and tailor them to your requirements.
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SAP_EC_SUS_BIDDER (for bidders - SAP Supplier Self-Services)
SAP_EC_SUS_DISPATCHER (for dispatchers - SAP Supplier Self-Services)
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Iam seeking your help to avoid error messages in the Plan driven procurement scenario.
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I want implant an Plan Driven with SRM 5.0 and ECC 6.0. My dude is the follow: what is the best technical scenario ? Classic or Classic extended ?
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