Plan Driven Procurement in Classic scenario
Dear SAP gurus,
We are in SRM 7 EHP 1 with backend ECC 6 EHP 5. We are considering to use classic scenario, but we want to make sure that all the components are working fine. We have a scenario where MRP will be used in backend thus crearting a PR. We know that we can then push the PR to become SC in SRM then it can be processed there.
However seein note 505030 point 15, it seems that you cannot procure direct material using classic scenario. I assume that if using classic scenario, the PR of stock materials just wont go to SRM. However in other places I read that actually stock material works for classic scenario, but the PO will automatically switch to extended classic.
So which one is correct? Is:
1. For PDP and in classic environment, PR stock material NOT able to go to SRM, OR
2. For PDP and in classic environment, PR stock material can go to SRM, but when it is converted to PO it switch to extended classic.
Best regards,
John
Hi John,
The second option works in SRM.
Direct procurement in classic scenario works as if the system were extended classic. Thus your PO will be created in SRM and a copy of it will be replicated to ECC.
Regards,
Nikhil
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See the link to help
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/18/8897267ef5eb44beb7fc578e95845e/frameset.htm
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Technical Scenarios
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· Standalone scenario
· Classic scenario
· Extended classic scenario
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>
> i have the following basic questions -
>
> 1- is the local PO in extended classic scenario
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> determined ?
>
> 2- is Direct material procuremnt can only be used in
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>
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>
>
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