Planned order start date is in the past

Hi Experts,
I am running MRP with lead time scheduling (2) at my production plant. The planned orders are generated against the requirements but the start date of the planned order is in the past. I have not mentioned anywhere in the configuration allowing the scheduling in past. I cross checked plant parameters, MRP group, settings for determining basic dates & scheduling parameters and every where start in the past check is blank.
Since the planned order basic dates are calculated based on in house production time in material master, I maintained the lot dependant times in work scheduling view (Set up & processing time with base qty). But system is not considering this in MRP run. But its considering the lot independant inhouse prod time maintained in work scheduling view in MRP.
Is there any other check to be maintained or system limitations? Your expert view on this please.
Appreciate an early reply.
Thanks & Regards
Prathib

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