Planned order to Process order

Dear Guru's,
While Planned order we are converting into Process order and if any RM is missing no warninig message appear.
What is missing in this.
regards,
Vijay Pabale

Dear,
No warning message appears because you need to set in your OPJK under material tab weather you want check or not.
And under release material you need to decide:
1     User decides on release if parts are missing
2     Release permitted despite missing parts
3     No release if parts are missing: It will stop you from release.
Regards,
Alok Tiwari

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Purchase order vs planned order vs process order vs production order

Hi,
Kinldy explain difference between the Purchase order, planned order, process order and production order?
Thanks & Regards
Ravi kumar

Hi Ravi,
In simple terms:
planned order - A procurement proposal generated by the system to meet a need, this can then be converted to a production / process order (for internal procurement) or into a purchase reqn & in-turn to Purchase order (for external procurement)
Purchase order - A firmed procurement proposal which is sent to your vendor (external procurement) to supply the items as per your order
process order - A firmed procurment proposal which is used for in-house procurement, this is used in process industries eg: chemicals, oil & gas etc
production order - A firmed procurment proposal which is used for in-house procurement, this is used in discrete production industries
Based on the above am quite sure you should be able to figure out the differenced. If any doubts revert.
Regards,
Vivek

Planned orders are not taking into account the processing time

Hi,
Could you please tell me why planned orders quantities are not based on processing time from the material master.
Materials was set before with 1 day in house production , no matter of lot size.
Based on routings I updated material master with processing time depending on lot size.
What is bottering me now is that planned orders are not taking into account processing time. (e.g. based on my processing time 1000 pce are produced in 3 days, but planned orders show me that 1000 pce are still need in 1 day , but it can not be produced in 1 day ).
what did I miss?
Thanks a lot for any information!

Hello Simona
The in house production time from tab MRP 2 is lot size independent.
However, on tab work scheduling you can define a lot size dependent times.
Please observe that, if you have entered an in house production time, the processing time will not be considered. The F1 help of the field provides the following explanation:
You can define work scheduling times in the material master record in one of two ways:
Either you enter the in-house production time. If required, you can get the system to update this value from the routing.
Or you enter the setup, teardown, processing, and interoperation times. If you maintain these values, the system determines the in-house production time on the basis of lot size.
Therefore, if you want to consider the processing time, you should remove the in house processing time.
BR
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Query on open planned orders details with process order GR details

Dear Experts,
I need to create a query in SQ01 where the requirement is as given below,
Query output should display the open planned orders (Planned orders which is not converted to process order details) details for a material like Planned order number, Planned order quantity, Start date, Finish date and also the details of the list of process orders created for the same material with its details like PO qty, GR qty, Basic start date, Finish date, Actual finish date, BOM Component material codes, component quantity.
But i tried creating this query by joing the tables PLAF+ AFPO+AUFK+ AFKO+RESB . My input parameter will be the Material Number for which Planned order and Process orders are being created.
But i am unable to generate the output when i create a query by joining these tables
Is it possible to obtain the output for open planned order details and process order details in a single query ?
I am failing in my repeated attempts
Please provide your suggestions for developing this query
Regards,
J.Balakrishnan

Dear Bala,
as alternative , for use a query report and not a custom abap report, you can try to read data from MRP tables MDKP and MDTB . In these one tables you can find both elements (planned order and production orders) for to start to research all details that you need.
You can also use MDTB-DELKZ to filter only planned order (PA) and Production order (FE).
With the number order you can read the RESB table in order to define components details.
With this table would you the advantage to have always the opened orders.
If the following table are empty you should make a little customizing modification so that once MRP run will write them.
Give me feedback if i have been useful for you.
Daniele

Planned cost for process order

Can we see the planned order cost of a process order before confirmation?If can how is it done?

Hi,
To see the planned cost of order before cofirmation,
COR2-> Goto-> cost-> Itemization.
Regards
Pradeep

Externally processed operation and planned order

Hello experts,
When an operation is defined as externally processed, once the production order (from a planned order generated via MRP) is created, the purchase requisition for that operation is automatically generated. My question is if it is possible to generate the purchase requisition before generating the production order, I mean, with the planned order.
Although this external operation is defined in the routing, the planned order does not show it and it means that the purchase requisition is not generated.
In our scenario we want to convert the production orders as late as possible to have automatic changes in BOM, but if we do not convert the planned orders to production orders, we won’t have this purchase requisitions.
Is there any way to solve this?
Regards

Hi Laura
No, it's not possible to generate the purchase requisition for an externally processed operation before the creation of the production order. The planned order routing is only exploded for scheduling and capacity requirements calculation and an operation is not actually created.
As an alternative, you can create a separated material number and assign the special procurement 30 for subcontracting to this material. If you add this component to the BOM of the parent material, MRP will directly generate a purchase requisition for subcontracting.
BR
Caetano

Differemce between PROCESS ORDER,PLANNED ORDER AND PURCHASE ORDER??

what is th edifference between PROCESS ORDER,PLANNED ORDER AND PURCHASE ORDER ??? can any one explain with some examples?
n.bhardwaj
[email protected]

Process Order:
Process order / Production order are activities within a business, where the production planning team team creates to absorb costs / evaluate costs / and check against planned figures. There would integration between MM/FI/PP to create such orders and process.
Planned Order:
A request created in the planning run for a plant to trigger the procurement of a plant material for a certain quantity for a specific date.
Purchase Order:
A request or instruction from a purchasing organization to a vendor (external supplier) or a plant to deliver a quantity of material or to perform services at a certain point in time.
Regards
AK

Option to convert Planned orders to Process order C

Kindly suggest, which is the best option to convert Planned order to Process order C from below mentioned options
1) Convert Planned orders to Process order C & send it to R/3. or
2) Send Planned orders to R/3 & convert it into Process order C in R/3
Regards,
Chetan

Depends on the process and how stable your planning is. If there is a lot more decisions to be made in the R3 side you let the planned orders be converted in R3 else
you normally would use the conversion indicator and send the planned order to R3 and it gets converted to Process Order there

Mass Processing of Planned orders

Hi all,
We can do mass availability check for the planned orders and we can firm the planned orders for which the materials are available through COHV but can we have a output log after the mass processing so that we can see the list of planned orders got firmed and for any other messages.
Regards
Kumar

Dear,
In COHV or COMAC.
in mass processing gtab page
select function = material availability check, execute it.
In selection tab page
Plant
Order type
System status - MSPT.
Or
Start the report PPCOXPR1 with the T.code SE38
Then try with Tcode CO24..
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Debug CIF - ECC inbound - User exit CIFORD03 - Planned order to process ord

Hi
While Converting planned orders to process orders from APO to ECC, queues are not getting stop in Inbound ECC.. even after setting CIF user as dialog user and maintaining both CIF user and my user ids in /sapapo/c4 to block queues. maintained the same in ECC CIFGPARAMV table. Outbound queues are stopping in APO, but not able to debug APO outbound queues...
I want to debug user exit CIFORD03 (EXIT_SAPLCORD_005 ) in ECC . Please reply.
Thanks
Sreeni

Hi Sreeni,
The setting in /sapapo/c4 against your user ID would be relevant in this case.
Debugging should be on, and use detailed logging. Also, your RFC user ID should be a dialog user ID or a Service user ID.
Did you make sure that your user ID and the RFC user ID 'in R/3 for APO' have sufficient debug authorizations (including queue debug authorizations)?
(You can find out the RFC user in SM59 in APO against the RFC connection that you have for R/3. )
You should then see a queue stuck in R/3 inbound, where you could enter in debug mode.
If you go to SMQR in R/3, and see a queue called CF, then it's also possible to deregister this CF queue, and then queues will get stuck in R/3 inbound. You could then use this queue for debug if you have sufficient debug authorizations including queue debug.
Thanks - Pawan
Edited by: Pawan Pathak on Feb 16, 2012 1:32 PM

Planned order conversion to Process Order and Stock Transport Order

Hello Friends,
Help me to setup the below scenario
We have an requirement wherein MAT1 can be inhouse produced or can also get stock from other plant via stock transport order.
For which in Material master I have configured
MRP 2 view
Procuremrent Type - X
Special Procurement - 40 (wherin the splly plant is maintained)
MRP 3 view
Strategy group - 40 (as it is planning with final assembly)
But when i run MRP system created Planed orders for PIRs. Selecting Planned Order conversion only Purchase req tab is available we do not have an option to convert to production order.
Kindly help me correcting the settings, so that i should be in a position to convert planned order either to process order or Stock transport Purchase requisition.
Thanks and Regards,
Chandra

Hi Chandra,
Stock transfer is only possible with procurement type 'F'. when you take spl.procurement type 40, its a combination of F(procurement type) and U (Spl.procurement). it will over write the procurement type ('X' in your case) in material master. that is the reason u r getting only pur req.
if you know the proportion quantity i.e how much inhouse and how much stock transport, then use quota arrangement.
or
don't use any spl procurement key. define the materials in both the plants. when converting planned order to pur req. manually assign supplying plant and item category 'U'. try this.
Thanks & regards
Dilip

Plan Order Conversation in to Process Order and Plan Order in Back Dates

HII
we are working in a process industries with three plants each of them have three order type. we have define MRP group in "OPPR" then assign each MRP group to Orde types in "OPPE". Now the problem is whn i convert plan order in process order for any material systme automaticaly pick the order type PIi01.
2nd Problem is system system is not creating plan order for prrevios dates. say i enter PIR for month of november from first november to 30th november and run MRP on 29th the sytem create plan order on 30th of november with exception message 30.
Regards
Ahmed

Dear
Problem No 1 : we are working in a process industries with three plants each of them have three order type. we have define MRP group in "OPPR" then assign each MRP group to Orde types in "OPPE". Now the problem is whn i convert plan order in process order for any material systme automaticaly pick the order type PIi01.
Answer :
1.Please check the OPPR -Plant and MRP group -Select Order Type Button -Check what Order Type you have assinged here ( PI01( May be the default Process Order Type )
2.If you are maintaing MRP group ( 0001 or 0002) , did you asisng the same in MRP1 view ?? because
3.Did you maintain the similar Order type in OPKP -Define Production Scheduling Profile ? -This has highest priority .
4.Did you maintain correct order type in OPJH-Maintain Order Type ??
Refer the expert comments on the same issue : Strategy group to define production order type
Problem No 2: 2nd Problem is system system is not creating plan order for prrevios dates. say i enter PIR for month of november from first november to 30th november and run MRP on 29th the sytem create plan order on 30th of november with exception message 30.
Answer : You can plan the order in back dated , if you maitain Satrt date in the Past optiuon in OPU3/OPU5-Define Scheduling parameters .Goto OPU3 -Select the Order Type -Double click -Maintain 90-60 days in the Start Date in the past in Scheduling Control and Details scheduling tab .
Hope it helps
regards
JH

SNP Planned Orders to ECC Process Orders - no PPDS

Hello Gurus,
Is there a way to covert an SNP Planned orders to ECC Prod. orders? Can one switch off the PPDS in APO and still get the MRP/ MPS planning in APO and and convert those SNP planned orders into ECC orders in ECC
Thanks.

Hi Abhi,
When you CIF SNP and PPDS planned orders to ECC system there is no diffrenciation between both of them (Because component specific details for the orders are not captured in ECC). So in ECC system you can convert Planned orders to Process or production orders by switching PPDS off in APO.
In APO system, SNP itself can plan for all the levels (RM,PM,FG,SFG) so no need of doing MRP.So you can switch off PPDS.
MPS functionality is available in ECC and not in APO system.
Thanks and regards
Sravan maturu

Process Orders and Planned Orders data

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I am working on extracting process order and Planned Orders data into BW. I could not find any standard DataSources available for my req, so I want to develop generic extractor. the main key figures are Actual Labor and Machine Hours, Target Labor and Machine hours.
Please help me if there are any standard datasource available or ECC tables to pull the data or any standard function modules available.
Thanks,
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these fields are not there in PLAF table.
I am looking for a table or datasource which can give those details.
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Conversion of planned order into process order not respecting F-S

Hi Experts,
I am working in Upgrade project from 4.6c to ECC 6 .
I have an isuue in PPPI
I have a process order which has to be converted to process order .
This operation should take place by phase 210 first then phase 300 .
But in our case the Phase 300 is starting first .
please suggest me where to find the trouble.
Thanks in advance

Hello,
I am afraid that when I enter procurement type=X & special procurement=30 in material master data, planned orders created by MRP have then a order type = NB (standard purchase order) and special produrement type = 3 (subcontracting).
So this kind of planned orders can only be converted into purchase request and NOT into production order.
It looks like it is not standard to do so in SAP and that I will have to manage subcontracting in prodution order; 1 routing for internal operation and 1 routing for subcontracting.
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