Planned qty in Cost analysis
Hi ,
We are follwoign PER settelement with Production orders.
1. When we create Production order and save Planned qty and Act qty (zero) is not getting updted at the time of save.
2. Target cost is zero so that i could not calculate variances.
can you please help.
Thanks,
Sudha
Hi Umapathi,
Thats fine.
My concern is when we save the production order the order qty will be updated in Planned qty tab of Cost analysis right, thats not happending.
Yes Actual qty will be udpated at the time of GR or confirmation i know, but while saving the order Act qty will be as '0', even that not happening now .
Both columns are blank.
Kinldy reply.
Thanks,
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3. Delivery based on SO 2 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 100 (qty 1)
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