Planning Book Data outside planning horizon

Hi Experts,
I am new to APO "Data partly after horizon 01.04.2010 to 01.04.2016" message is coming when accessing planning book in our production system, not in Testing/Quality system .refer attachment
when I gone through the forum we have to extend planning area using program /SAPAPO/TS_PAREA_INITIALISE.
To perform this activity is back up of the cube compulsory we have to do?
Please let me know is any other steps to follow to resolve this issue, with this issue the users are not able to access planning book.
Thanks & Regards,
Srihari.M

Hi Srihari,
Check the horizon of the planning area and compare with your data view, right click on Planning area and select "Created Time Series Objects"
for example
Your Data view should not cross the End Date shown, which is the reason for your error. Also check the past horizon.
Please check and confirm
Regards,
JB

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