Planning dependent and independent requirements in DP

Hi,
We have a material A here that has a BOM defined. The components of the BOM are all dependent on the initial material. There are some cases where theBOM is recursive, meaning that the components of BOM could include material A. Now, I also have some more components that are infact independent of this material but are necessary for material A but it's dynamic. How do I plan this scenario in DP?
I think DP-BOM does the dependent requirements planning for the material A.
How do I plan for the dynamic components? I have some history on how they are generally consumed. So, should I plan them separately, I mean the material A along with the dependent components and the independent dynamic no. components? But the problem, I am guessing, comes up when we forecast more of the independent components and plan fewer for this month....Can somebody suggest me something?
I think I am correct in going for DP-BOM instead of CBF as I donot have variants involved here. Please correct me if I am wrong, we use DP-BOM when we need to plan on simple BOMs (no variants, multiple BOMs etc.) and use CBF in case we need to deal with variants involving characteristics.
Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Visu Venkat

the realignment will depend on the realignment table. So if you devise a way to keep that as dynamic as your changes in the components you should be able to do that
there are quite a few ways you can achieve your means... the realignment thought occured because i was posting another answer on it
am sure there will be other issues we havent foreseen that might arise when you actually try it
here is another alternate you might want to try.... just some more vague thought....
if you are on SCM 5 (if you are on another version there are other ways of doing this)
1. create CV Cs based on a worklist that lists the dynamic components ... (you can automate this if you want - as long as there is a reference spreadsheet)
2. Create a selection profile that has the Main component and the dynamic components (lets assume there are 3 components and this will be a 1:1 ratio with the main productA)... now the total of the forecast for this selection profile will be say 100
2. Run a macro that will multiply the forecast with the number of products in it (so 100*4) . this will make the forecast 400
3. If you have set a disaggregation on the forecast KF that is equal distribution (this may not be the case in your business scenario) you will get 100 on each of the selections
am sure there are a lot of holes in this that can be plugged or variations worked on... depends what works easier for you...and the amount of maintainance and data involved ... it will all boil down to the business process

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