Planning Level Root Question (Periodid Vs Monthly)

Hello,
I have a question related with planning level configuration.
In the standard SAP Planning area
SAP2 - All the planning levels have been defined monthly attribute as the root for time
SAP4 - All the planning levels have been defined periodid attribute as the root for time
What is the difference between both type of configuration. (Selecting Monthly / period id as the root, what difference it creates and how it affects other areas)
I was testing consensus demand key figure in SOP 3.0 and I am unable to edit the key figure value in my planning area (KF value change in Excel) which is a copy of SAP4 planning area. Initial response from SAP OSS is to modify the planning level and use monthly instead of Periodid (But I have just copied the standard SAP4 planning area).
Uploading the key figure using KF template works fine but issues comes only when I tried to change the value in Excel or try to input new values in blank cells.
Same thing I also tested in IBP 4.0 FP1 Patch 1 and configuration is exactly the same as SOP 3.0 (Both SAP2 and SAP4 planning area) but I am able to modify consensus demand key figure in both the copied planning area (Copy of SAP2 and SAP4) irrespective of monthly / periodid selected as the root.
Please let me know if you have observed this before and what are your feedback/suggestions.
Thanks
Girish

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