Planning straegy 60/ 63 need to consume PIR

I am using a planning material with the strategy 60/63 in MRP 3 to plan multiple variant Finished Good product with planning strategy 60/ 63
The issue is Planned orders are created for sales order and PIRs at the FG level. There is an way/icon to convert the planned order to a process order for the plnd order (type KD) created against the sales order, but there is no icon for converting the plnd order (type VB) to process order for the one created against the Ind req VSEV.
When I look at the PIR, in this case, it shows consumption indicator = 1 (consume with customer requirement)., which is generally = 3, for Planning strategy 40.
It seems this is behaving like MTO situation.
1) Is it true planning strategy 60 and 63 are for MTO? 63 should be for MTS, unless I am mistaken somewhere in the MRP settings: Mixed MRP etc.
Pls advise.
Thnx!

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