Planning strategy grp in MTO

Hello All,
We have a pure make to order scenario (Stgy grp 20). In one of the orders, the material master creation group forgot to enter the stgy grp in MRP 3 (It is actually left blank). Also, the sales order for that particular material is created and MRP run taken.
To my surprise, i found that planned orders are still getting generated and are still percolating down to the bottom most level even after not defining the planning strategy group in material master of FERT. How is the planned order getting generated due to presence of a sales order even without the stgy. group? I believe it should not have got generated.
Need ur help..Am i going wrong somewhere?
Thanking you in anticipation,

During sale order creation system will check the schedule line category first ( based on MRP type system will pick the schedule line category) if the schedule line category has CP ( relevant to MRP), system will set theis sale order as relevant to MRP.
and then system will check the stratergy group in material master, based on this requirement type for customer requiremnt is picked, during MRP, system will behave based on requiremnt type.
if the stratergy group is not mainatined in material master then only system will check for MRP group for stratergy type and find the requiremnt type.
If the stratergy group is not find in material master and MRP group, system will trigger MRP for sale order with schedle line category .
In schedule catergory config( V0V6) you can fid the requiremnt transfer tick), this setting will trigger the requiremnt to MRP eventhough stratergy group is not maintained, if stratergy group is mainatained, system will behave based on stratergy group( reuirement type.

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50 Planning without final assembly (MTO) , in the item detail screen , on the "Conditions"
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