Plant Dependent and Plant Independent Requirement.

Hi,
I want to know in details, meaning of "Plan dependent Requirement" and "Plan Independent Requirement".
Rajesh

Hi Rajesh,
PIR(planned independent requirement) is created for the parent(finished) material in tcode MD61
Then in MD04 you can check the same
Dependent requirement will automatically get created for the child materials(semi finished,raw) of the parent material for which PIR is created
Hope the above is clear
Regards,
SVP

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I am going through pdf learning of an ALE scenario,i couldnot get wat is meant by client Independent and client dependent.
How can i conclude
Create message type (WE81){color:green} Client independent {color}
To create a new message type, follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction WE81 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> Create logical message type)
u2022 Choose Create logical message type by double clicking on it
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to add a new type
u2022 Enter the required message type, in our case it is ZINVRV and an appropriate description
u2022 Save and exit.
Your message type has now been created. The next step will be to link it to the IDoc.
2.2.1. Link message to IDoc type (WE82 & BD69) {color:green} Client independent {color}
To link the message type to the IDoc type follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction WE82 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> EDI: Message Types and Assignment to IDoc Types)
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to create the link
u2022 Enter the message type ZINVRV and the BasicIDoc type as ZINVRV01
u2022 Save and exit
u2022 Enter transaction BD69 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> Assign message type to IDoc for ALE)
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to create the link
u2022 Enter the message type ZINVRV and the BasicIDoc type as ZINVRV01
u2022 Save and exit
Your IDoc is now linked to your message type. We still need to link object types and add the message to the model before we can use the message.
2.2.2. Maintain object type for message type (BD59) Client independent
The ALE objects are used to create links between IDocs and applications objects, to control the serialisation, to filter messages in the customer model and to use listings.
For our own message type and IDoc you must maintain object types for the links.
If you want to check the serialisation for the message type, then you must maintain object types for the serialisation. If no serialisation object has been maintained for a given message type, then the serialisation will not be checked for this message type.
To add an object type to our message type, follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction BD59 (ALE -> Extensions -> ALE object maintenance -> Maintain object types)
DOC NAME: ALE_SCENARIO_DEVELOPMENT_PROCEDURE
Version 1 Page 6 of 16
ALE Scenario Development Guide
u2022 Type in your message type ZINVRV and press enter
u2022 Click on New entries
u2022 Enter your object type, LIFNR (We need to use the vendor as a filter object), the segment name where LIFNR resides, Z1INVRV, a number 1 for the sequence followed by the actual field name LIFNR
u2022 Save and exit.
You have now created an object that weu2019ll use as a filter object in the customer model to direct the flow of messages to the various logical systems based on the vendors in the filter of the message type ZINVRV.
We now need to add our new message type to the distribution model.
2.3. Configuring the Distribution Model
This task is performed on your ALE reference client.
2.3.1. Manual Configuration (BD64) {color:green} Client dependent {color}
To manually configure the customer distribution model, read the ALE configuration procedure, and follow these steps:
u2022 Perform the Maintain customer distribution model directly function. (ALE -> Distribution customer model -> Maintain customer distribution model directly)
u2022 Specify the customer model you want to maintain and the logical system that is to be the sender of the messages OR create a new model. (Create model ALE with logical system ALELS1C400)
u2022 Choose the receiving systems to which the sending system must forward message type ZINVRV to.
u2022 For each receiving logical system allocate the message type necessary for communication to the receiving systems as per ALE configuration procedure.
u2022 Create filter objects (in our case LIFNR as the object type with the associated vendor number, 0000018001 with leading zeros, in the object area) for the message types.
u2022 Save the entries.
Refer my query within color:green
Edited by: aditya sharma on Jul 14, 2010 12:57 PM
Edited by: aditya sharma on Jul 14, 2010 1:01 PM

A client is an independent business unit within an R/3 System, Data in the R/3 are classified as cleint-Dependent and client-independent.
Client-independent data such as ABAP Programs, R/3 repository objects throught the entire system. Other data is client-dependent. meaning, it can be viewed from one client. Cleint-dependent data includes customizing application and user data.
Eg.
Scripts are client dependent, means the changes done to SAP scripts in particular client will not be reflected in other client.
Smartforms are client independent, means changes done in one client will be reflected in all the clients.
Server : ECC6
Client : 100 , 200 , 300 , 400
Now suppose you have developed report in DV server client 100.
Then you will be able to see that in all clients.
Hence this is called as client independent. You can change anywhere and changes will be reflected to all ...
Now suppose you have developed a script in DV client 100.
You will not be able to see that in client 200 or 300 or 400 unless ytou copy that from client since it is client dependent.

SALES ORDER AND CUSTOMER INDEPENDENT REQUIREMENT

What is the difference between sales order and customer independent requirement?
Where these are used?

Hi Sachin,
If you get an order from your customer you create a sales order in your system. Refering to this SO you can create (e.g.) delivery document and issue your goods from your stock.
In case of PIR (planned independent requirements) you don't know who your customer is. You can use these requirements e.g. for forecasts, MTS environment.
In MTO environment SO will generate PrdOrd, and after the confirmation your goods will get to SO-special stocks from where you can ship them out. You won't produce in this environment independently from SO.
In MTS environmnet you can use both SO and PIR. E.g. in case of planning startegy 11 MRP doesn't calculate with your SO, only PIRs are considered. This strategy is very simple: you input your production plan as PIRs. These PIRs will generate PldOrd, then production orders will be issued and after confirmation your PIRs will disappear. It doesn't matter how many SOs you have, it doen't matter how high your stock levels are...MRP displays them only for information purpose.
In strategy 40 (MTS) both PIRs and SOs (and stock levels) are considered, and (one) purpose of PIRs is to level your production (you will produce even thiough your slaes figure are low > later you can fulfill high demands from stock and you won't have to increase your production quantities). SOs will consume PIRs based on the rules you define.
Please check this link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/60/9ea1536fbd11d191820000e8a5f6e6/frameset.htm
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What exactly is the diff between client dependant and client independant te

Hi gurus,
What is the diff between client independant and client dependant term.. I initially had a confusion related to client independant and client dependant Transport requests, where else are these words applicable, do they apply to data as well, if so how? any links to help me understand the difference..
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kishore

Hi Kishore,
Client Independant: These objects are not specific to any client. And it is universal which can be viewed,changed across the clients.
Client Dependant: These are the objects can be viewed, changed for the client for which it has been assigned. Other clients do not have access on these objects.
In SAP, all objects are finally stored as tables. "Mandt" is key field which determines whether the object is client dependant or not.
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Difference between client dependent table and client independent table

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i m new in sap pls tell me the difference between client dependent table and client independent table.
tell me in detail.
thanks and regards
vikas saini

HI
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
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Create independent requirements in SAP R/3 using Java Connectors

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I am an Developer and have this requirement .
My part is to deliver a program [an EXE program] that can read an input file and create independent requirements in SAP R/3 accordingly using these function Modules.
One thing that is very important to Notice is that, to keep requirements synchronized in SAP with an external requirements plan[flat file] I will have to:
1) Read the existing requirements for a material/plant combination using the BAPI_REQUIREMENTS_GETDETAIL from the Java program and
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I not understand your question.
¿Need the steps to make the exe program?
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2.     read the flat file and use BAPI_REQUIREMENTS_GET to display detail for planned independent Requirements.
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Diff client depandent and client independent

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what is different between client dependent and client independent.Please explain...
gaurav mittal

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client independent is when u make any changes in some client it will reflect in particular client in which u r working

Planning dependent and independent requirements in DP

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We have a material A here that has a BOM defined. The components of the BOM are all dependent on the initial material. There are some cases where theBOM is recursive, meaning that the components of BOM could include material A. Now, I also have some more components that are infact independent of this material but are necessary for material A but it's dynamic. How do I plan this scenario in DP?
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Visu Venkat

the realignment will depend on the realignment table. So if you devise a way to keep that as dynamic as your changes in the components you should be able to do that
there are quite a few ways you can achieve your means... the realignment thought occured because i was posting another answer on it
am sure there will be other issues we havent foreseen that might arise when you actually try it
here is another alternate you might want to try.... just some more vague thought....
if you are on SCM 5 (if you are on another version there are other ways of doing this)
1. create CV Cs based on a worklist that lists the dynamic components ... (you can automate this if you want - as long as there is a reference spreadsheet)
2. Create a selection profile that has the Main component and the dynamic components (lets assume there are 3 components and this will be a 1:1 ratio with the main productA)... now the total of the forecast for this selection profile will be say 100
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3. If you have set a disaggregation on the forecast KF that is equal distribution (this may not be the case in your business scenario) you will get 100 on each of the selections
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Please tell the table and field name for Dependent & Independent requirements.
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