Play (out to camera) vs. Print to Video

Got a problem here that's hit and miss. Sometimes I can play from FCP timeline with my camera connected to record to tape, other times no (just get my camera's blue screen). I know I can Print to Video, but I'm currently trying to get a two-hour project out to tape (I have to use two tapes, start recording to the 2nd tape in the middle of the project). Is there some setting to make sure I can play from the FCP timeline and record out to my camera via firewire?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mark G.

I've never used Edit to Tape before (just made the leap from FCE2). When I click on Edit to Tape, the Edit to Tape window (with color bars) pops up over the Canvas window. When I click the Play button in the E-to-T window, my camera begins to play (FCP timeline does not). When I click on the FCP timeline and play the project, it doesn't play on either the E-to-T window or camera. Is there a setting I don't have adjusted correctly?

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Weird audio issue when printing to video

I am attempting to dub a couple of old projects to tape using the Print to Video command (firewire connection to Panasonic DVX-100A MiniDV camera). I have used this method many times in the past with success. However, I have now tried two different projects tonight and had the same strange issue: The project plays back perfectly normally in the timeline, through the computer speakers, but when I Print to Video, there will be one part where a small audio "blip" can be heard. It sounds like either a snippet of tone or the sound of un-rendered audio... except it's all rendered.
Anybody have any suggestions? It's really weird that it plays back something different in Print to Video than it does in regular playback... Any help is appreciated.

That did it, thanks! I feel kind of dumb, I've never used that function before. Is that something I should have been doing all along? Anyway, thanks again. It's nice to get a response and have it work on the first try. So refreshing.

My fix for FCP6 print to video - no video

Hope this helps somebody so they don't go through what I just did.
I spent 4 hours screwing around with settings and searching forums and ripping hair out before I got print to video to work for me. Prints to all of my cameras and my DSR-20 DVCAM deck now. I had output video as 640x480 Quicktime from a 1920x480 panoramic I created and masked down in Quicktime, then read that back into FCP on the timeline. Audio, but no video on print to video. A light bulb went off that maybe I should try a different file format. I went back to the original file and re-output as DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, custom size 720x480, dropped that into the timeline and printed to video just fine.

Hi Diana,
Post more about the setup here. What format are you trying to record? Which Cameras? Are you connecting the cameras before you launch FCP? If not try that. Also might try editing to tape. Just requires a bit of black on the head of the tape to set an in point with. There's a black and Code button for that too in the Edit to Tape window.
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Edited AVCHD, burned as a blue ray. Is a print to video possible ?

As far as I understand AVCHD from my Panasonic TM300, via log and transfer is decoded to apple codec. Then I work on those files. After editing I can export to quick time movie and then (using for example toast) burn it as a blue ray disc.
All good so far ?
Do I have a full HD (1920x1080) blue ray disc ?
Second question is: what is the way to save my work for future ?
Before Panasonic TM300 I was using Sony HDR HC3 and after editing I was just printing to video which means printing to mini DV tape using this camera. If I clear my hard drive I always had a copy of edited movie in HD on the tape.
Now I have Panasonic TM300 which record in avchd. Can put edited video back to camera using print to video option ? Will it code that video back to Mpeg4 and upload that to camera hard drive ? or it only works with a tape and I need to use old camera to back up my edited video.
thanks
Marek

rufkaz wrote:
As far as I understand AVCHD from my Panasonic TM300, via log and transfer is decoded to apple codec. Then I work on those files. After editing I can export to quick time movie and then (using for example toast) burn it as a blue ray disc.
All good so far ?
Yes, with a 20 minutes limit and fixed predesigned menus from toast. The resulting BR DVD will play fine in Sony PS3. I don't know about other BR players.
Do I have a full HD (1920x1080) blue ray disc ?
No, 1280X720 only.
Second question is: what is the way to save my work for future ?
Before Panasonic TM300 I was using Sony HDR HC3 and after editing I was just printing to video which means printing to mini DV tape using this camera. If I clear my hard drive I always had a copy of edited movie in HD on the tape.
Now I have Panasonic TM300 which record in avchd. Can put edited video back to camera using print to video option ? Will it code that video back to Mpeg4 and upload that to camera hard drive ? or it only works with a tape and I need to use old camera to back up my edited video.
No print to tape operation with AVCHD.
As HC3 is HDV, theorically it should print to tape after a conforming process transcoding AIC to HDV, but I never try it. Be prepare for looooong processing time (6 to 8 time the lenght of sequence).
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HV20 and Print to Video or Edit to Tape?

Has anyone figured out the workflow for final cut pro and getting video back out to tape using
"print to video"
or
"edit to tape"
with "edit to tape" I get an "unable to initialize" error where it tells me to check the audio/video settings.
with "print to video"
I'm using the record/pause function from page 71 of the manual, but the hv20 doesn't see to see a signal. Also the playback on the mac is interesting. it's in the middle of the screen, and not showing the full resolution..
basically I'm just trying to dub an hdv tape.
thanks!
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ok, the only things listed in the audio/video settings are the ntsc and pal firewire devices.
when I try to set it to hdv 1080i60 firewire basic, I get the error:
unable to locate the following external devices:
HDV (1440 x 1080) 60i
but the camera is both connected... and on. Is there a reason it would see the camera as an SD device instead of a HD device?

Print to Video problem

Hi. I'm trying to back up a large amount of raw footage by using the File/Print To Video option to record onto MiniDV tapes. I'm using a MacBook Pro, FCP 6.0.6 and a Sony HDV Handicam as the recording deck. When I've tried to Print to Video, the footage displays on my monitor, but not in the display LCD panel of the video camera. After rewind and playback, nothing has been recorded. I went through the forum to read up on similar problems and think the issue might be that I can't get FCP to give me any Video Playback options under File/Audio/Video Settings/Summary/Video Playback: I'm defaulting to "None" and only "Digital Cinema Desktop Preview" options are available. I've tried rebooting several times, switching between a Sony iLink S400 cable and a generic Firewire, but no luck.
I don't know if it matters, but the original footage is stored on an external drive. It wasn't shot on this handicam. When I logged and transfered a small clip of this footage into a new test project, I allow FCP to match my sequence settings to the clip settings, resulting in a Sequence/Sequence Settings Panel with the following:
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Pixel Aspect Ratio: HD (960x720)
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Depth: 16-bit
Config: Channel Grouped
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I'm trying to back up a large amount of raw footage by using the File/Print To Video option to record onto MiniDV tapes. I'm using a MacBook Pro, FCP 6.0.6 and a Sony HDV Handicam as the recording deck.
OK...now keep that in mind. HDV camera. Print to video is the solution...BUT...
Frame Size: 960x720 HD (960x720) (16:9)
Pixel Aspect Ratio: HD (960x720)
Field Dominance: None
Editinng Timebase: 23.98
QuickTime Video Settings
Compressor: DVDPRO HD 720p60
DVCPRO HD! That is NOT HDV. You cannot PRINT TO VIDEO via firewire a format that is NOT HDV. Not possible. Not unless you convert it TO HDV. But then you are taking a nice 100mbps, intra-frame (individual frame) 720p 23.98 footage and convert it to 1080i 29.97 Log GOP format. It will not be close to what your original footage looks like.
If you insist on archiving to HDV, then you need an HD Capture card (one that cross converts 720p to 1080i, BTW), and high end HDV deck with SDI imputs. But then you are changing HD formats.
Nope...wanna keep the same format? Then rent a DVCPRO HD deck. Know though, that when you output you won't be running at 23.98 anymore...it will be converted to 720p 59.94, as that is the format that the tape records. And you can't remove the pulldown, as outputting to tape from FCP doesn't include any 23.98 pulldown flags.
This is P2, right? Keep and archive the ORIGINAL P2 card dumps to bare SATA drives, or firewire drives. Or invest in an LTO tape archiving.
HDV is not an archiving/mastering format. It is acquisition only.
Shane

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I'm trying to layback 1080i to cam tape out of FCX 4. It's a cannon HV20. All I can do is send 720x480. The easy setup is Apple Inter. Codec 1080i60. The View/Video Out/Apple FireWire NTSC (720x480) seems to be the only viable option that gets it to the camera, or did I miss something. I want it to be 1080i, not 720. Is what I want impossible. I would really like to have my HD material edited, then recorded back to tape for viewing full blown.

It still does not appear. Sometimes the camera records nothing, and other times it starts to record but then stops because it is getting no input. I have trashed the program and reloaded it with no difference. I have however gotten it to do something different. If I go into Sequence/Settings and click the button that says "Load Sequence Preset..." and select AIC1080i60 (which is already selected) and click OK, all my clips become unrendered. So I render enough for the "in and out point", start "Print to Video and now I get an additional progress bar that says "Transcoding to HDV". It takes about 4 minutes to get through this. Now it starts recording to tape, BUT...it puts on the count down because I selected that, a small area of video a little squished, and the sound is way out of sync. The sound started with the count down. I'll play with this more tonight, must get back to my real job.

Trying to print to video using in and out

I am trying to print to video (Mini DV) using in and out points. It works fine when I just play through the camera and record and it will print to video when I start at the beginning, but when I place in and out points and I have set the media to print "In to Out", but it just records the black leader then stops.

For exporting, IN and OUT points must be set in the +timeline of the sequence+ you want to export: make sure the timeline is selected, but NO clip in the timeline is selected before setting the points (use ****-cmd-A to deselect all clips).
If they are properly set you'll see an highlighted area in the timeline between the IN and the OUT points.
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I went through all the steps and record light comes on camera but no recording. I tried in and out I tried all footage I even brought in a mov file. I am stumped

That helped connect it properly, but now what's happening is that it's displaying the image of the canvas onto the lcd screen of the camera but when I go to Print to Video, the media plays on the computer, the camera records, but the image on the LCD screen of the camera stays still and it just records a still iamge....

Apple Video Adapter / Firewire Out Thru Camera

Hello,
Could someone explain in somewhat technical detail the difference between playing your timeline out to a TV, through the Video Adapter as compared to Firewire out thru a camera.
I didn't own a TV - I only watch films on my wall with a projector - but I got a basic TV the other day (I have zero budget) to help with finishing off my film projects.
It will help to see the DVDs I burn on a TV, as I couldn't do that before (without going to a friends house), but I'm forced to use the Video Adapter and I've read that it's of no use; that you need to go firewire out thru a camera.
I don't have an firewire in facility on my camera.
I basically wanted to hear more than what I've read so far. Specifically, what is the difference in technical terms?
Thru the adapter: is it interlaced on the TV, are the colors different, is it a pixel issue; what's the difference?
I edit on my iBook with Final Cut Pro, I've got a 19" Diamond Pro 930SB monitor also, and now this basic little TV. They all look different and I'm going crazy trying to figure out which to finish to.
Buying more kit, or adding something I don't have is not an option; only how to make the best use of what I've got.
Thanks for any answers or guidance.
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www.yogamayafilms.com
iBook G4 12.1 Mac OS X (10.3.7)
iBook G4 12.1 Mac OS X (10.3.7)

Second what David said about using the output on the computer - it has little real-world use.
Matt, from looking at your impressive website I'm surprised you aren't more familiar with video technology, or at least have people around you who do. That's actually a complimant.
There are two essential things using a properly converted CRT will give you.
The first - coupled with a decent and calibrated video monitor (rather than a TV) - is a consistent standard by which you can judge your work, especially in comlor correction. FOr anything you consider critical work you should also be using scopes.
The second, assuming you are working in any interlaced format such as PAL or NTSC, is to give you the full temporal and spatial resolution of an interlaced signal. At the least it will allow you to see and correct interlace-related problems which are posted here so often. Your "basic tv" will at least help with this part.
The FCP manual explains both of these fairly well in more detail.
I reiterate that the Mac's video output has no relevance to either of these, no matter what the settings.
If you have shot your own material and brought it into the Mac, didn't you use a camera, a deck, or an analog converter to do that"? If so, you have your converter already.

Print To Video HDV dropping out

When I try to print to video from the computer to a Sony HDV 1080i deck it goes and conforms all the video then I start the process and it works fine until a certain spot and will go to black then back on again etc.
I've tried this a few times and at the same spot will get the problem so I checked to make sure it wasn't the tape, I threw away the rendered files and re-rendered them again. I even saved the project to a quicktime movie which played back looks fine. I tried to use the quicktime file and it stops at the same place everytime.
Any suggestions?
I even went and rendered all of my sequences, mixed down the audio etc.
thanks in advance!
Just recently went from FCP 5.1.2 to 5.1.4 I did another project last week and the print to video worked out fine I was wondering if this was a bug in 5.1.4?
Using FCP 5.1.4

conforming and decoding the mpeg2 HDV stream seems to be the hardest thing for the computer to do. Enough RAM, and a beefy video card will help. I think it's a miracle every time I can get a batch of HDV clips to sucessfully capture. Cutting doesn't go too bad, but I have found outputting native HDV to be nearly impossible.
We had about 3 hours worth of 10-15 minute segments to output, and it took close to 3 weeks of constant effort, outputting one sequence at a time. It would black out, stop playing back, freeze up, put all kind of breaks in the timecode even if you pre-stripe the tape. And all the while it would never, ever alert or abort on dropped frames, timcode breaks, etc.
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I believe that a faster computer with more RAM and a better video card would have made a big difference. Newer versions of FCP have probably solved a lot of the issues I had with the rendered material. Even so, there are aspects of the long-GOP, mpeg-2 stream aspects of HDV and the way that it negatively affects timecode, deck control, and capture and output, that make the format my last choice for professional editing.
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Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer for you...
Max Average

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HDV Print to Video - Video Doesn't Display or Record on Camera

I am editing HDV 1080i60 on FCP 5.1.3 and when I try to Print to Video, the camera screen displays "HDV in" and "i.LINK" but remains blue and does not allow me to press the record button. However, with the same camera (HDR-HC1) and using Final Cut Express I am able to print to video (although this is annoying because it has to convert to Apple Intermediate Codec).
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OK, I have discovered the problem, and it's a doozy.
Her HDV sequence was set for 1280 X 1080, HDV 1080 Compressor, rather than 1440 X 1080. We have no clue how that happened, but it did.
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She is now rendering and conforming. I had her make sure ALL of the render bars were checked in Sequence > Render All, and that she chose Both audio and video. This should do it.
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