Playback Issues Repeated/Dropped Frame?

I have a hackintosh with Adobe CS6 Production Premium installed. On Premiere Pro when editing footage every so often I have a repeated frame/dropped frame. I don't think its really called a dropped frame because I have the drop frame indicator and it shows no signs at all (green throughout the timeline). When playing back the footage/clip it looks as though there is a duplicated frame then continues to play as normal. If I have a 5min sequence it will do this once every 20-30 secs. When exported everything is fine so can only be a problem during playback within Premiere. Has anyone come across this problem before? If there is a fix or would the upgrade just fix this problem? Any help would be appreciated.
Specs:
Ppro 6.0.0
GPU: Nvidia GTX 680 cuda enabled
CPU: core i7
Mac OSX 10.8.3
Footage: ProRes 422 1920x1080 25p

If it doesn't show up in the export, it's a pretty minor issue safely ignored.

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Hi,
I have a 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 iMac with a 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M graphics card and 20GB of DDR3 RAM.
FCPX has been working fine up until now, but suddenly has started dropping frames.
FCPX 10.0.5 btw
For extra info my iMac crashed last night because I was rendering out of After Effects and completely ran out of memory. I now have 40% free space and have reset the parameter random access memory (PRAM) and nonvolatile RAM (NVRAM). Still the problem persists.
Footage is not proxy and is being pulled from my Mac hard drive.
Any ideas?

This is my pet checklist for questions regarding FCP X performance - you may have already addressed some of the items but it's worth checking.
Make sure you're using the latest version of the application - FCP X 10.0.5 runs very well on my 2009 MacPro 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 16 GB RAM and ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB. I run it with Lion 10.7.4.
First, check that you have at least 20% free space on your system drive - otherwise it will run slowly.
If you have not already done so, move your Projects and Events to a fast (Firewire 800 or faster) external HD. Make sure the drive's formatted OS Extended (journalling's not required for video). You should always keep at least 20% free space on the Hard Drives that your Media, Projects and Events are on.
Check the spec of your Mac against the system requirements:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs/
Check the spec of your graphics card. If it's listed here, it's not suitable:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664
If you are getting crashes, there is some conflict on the OS. Create a new (admin) user account on your system and use FCP X from there - if it runs a lot better, there's a conflict and a clean install would be recommended.
Keep projects to 20 mins or less. If you have a long project, work on 20 min sections then paste these into a final project for export.
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If you have plenty of processor power, for the ultimate editing experience, create Optimised Media - most camera native files are highly compressed and need a great deal of processor power to play back - particularly if you add titles, filters or effects. ProRes 422 takes up much more hard drive space but is very lightly compressed. It edits and plays back superbly.
Hide Audio Waveforms at all times when you don't need them (both in Browser and Storyline / Timeline). They take up a lot of processor power. (Use the switch icon at the bottom-right of your timeline to select a format without waveforms if you don't need them at the moment, then switch back when you do).
Create folders in the Project and Events libraries and put any projects you are not working on currently, in those folders. This will help a lot. There's a great application for this, called Event Manager X - for the tiny cost it's an invaluable application.
http://assistedediting.intelligentassistance.com/EventManagerX/
Unless you cannot edit and playback without it, turn off Background Rendering in Preferences (under Playback) - this will help general performance and you can always render when you need to by selecting the clip (or clips) and pressing Ctrl+R.
The biggest single improvement I saw in performance was when I upgraded the RAM from 8 GB to 16.
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I am using Adobe Premiere Elements 2.0. I am editing MPG files shot on my camcorder, I can import these successfully but the playback in the main monitor window drops more frames than it actually displays. The sound is fine, just the video causes problems.
The file that is output plays back perfectly, as does the original footage when viewed in Windows Media, it just makes editing difficult when you can not see the footage frame by frame during playback.
Why does this happen and is there a solution?
Thanks in advance,
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Rendering previews only helps if you export to DV-AVI and uncheck the "always render" option.
It's easy enough to prove that it doesn't help when exporting to DVD. Take a short clip and put it on the timeline twice. Increase the brightness of the second clip slightly so you can distinguish it from the first clip. Now render a preview. Two preview files will be created. Now exit out of Premiere Elements. Use Windows Explorer to swap the names of the two preview files. Now go back into Premiere Elements and load the project. The green line is still there, but now the second brighter clip is in the first position. Now export to DVD and you will see that the rendered files were not used to create the DVD because the brighter clip is in the second position. The rendered files were completely ignored.

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I would think FCP X would be the same? I have horrible playback, thousands of dropped frames, and I can't watch my video smoothly. ever.
And I'm having this trouble even after transcoding proxy media. In the system Prefs I've told the software to playback proxy, and not alert me when a frame drops... I thought these settings would help me edit faster and smoother... but I'm just being bogged down by dropped frames.
My media is stored on a Lacie 2TB via Firewire 800, and only iTunes and Safari are open.
Is there another step I can take to make the playback better? I know I have a small, but yet decent iMac, should I be having this issue? I thought 64 bit was going to make everything faster.
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Sounds like it might be a graphics card incompatibility problem. What specific graphic card does your iMac have? To check, go to "About this Mac" in the apple menu, click on "More Info" and then click on "Graphics/Displays" in the Contents pane.
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Scrolling mouse cause drop frames?

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My problem is that when I'm scrolling my mouse over timeline while playback, it causes dropped frames. Does anybody know what could be the possible reason for this. My video format is apple intermediate codec, and at first it worked fine but now the problem returning.
Have brand new imac 27, with 12Gb RAM.
Well thanks for your advice, really appreciate it.
I've read almost similar thread which was written like 2 years ago and no answer was found. Just wondering if the situation is different at this time. =)
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where are you storing the media files?
If its the internal system drive you need to get a drive capable of sustained video data rates

Dropped frames on Xserve RAID upgraded w/750GB drives.

I'm capturing in 10-bit uncompressed standard definition 720x480. I just upgraded one side of my Apple XRAID, (connected directly via fibre channel) with seven, 750GB hard drives from Apple, drives designed for the XRAID, (came with there own sleds.)
Current Xserve RAID firmware version is at version 1.5.1/1.51c
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The drives were formated using the Xserve RAID Admin software and mounted using Apples Disk Utilities, Journaling turned off. The final formated capacity of the RAID on drives 1-7 is 4.1TB.
When I capture to the drives on the upgrade side, I get dropped frames. When capturing to the other side, no issues, works great. I checked the settings for performance and they are the same for both sides, as follows:
Use Controller Write Cashe - ON
Allow Host Cashe Flushing - OFF
Use Drive Write Cashe - ON
Use Steady Streaming Mode - OFF
Read Prefetch: 128 stripes (8 MB/disk)
My capture box is an AJA I/o and has never given me dropped frames till now, but only on the side of the RAID that has the new 750GB drives. I also have another RAID that uses 500GB drives on both sides and it work just fine as well, (no dropped frames) using the same performance settings in XRAID utilities.
Any suggestion on why these new Apple drives modules are dropping frame would be very much appreciate. Again 7 new 750GB drives from Apple w/sleds having dropped frame issues.

I'm capturing in 10-bit to avoid loss of quality from analog sources like BetaCam SP as well as line 21 must be part of the captured file, because it contains line 21 for captioning. Eight bit has a banding issue that I can't have in the final product and 10-bit doesn't have this issue.
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I also create high quality QuickTime Streaming files from these source files, the higher the quality of the source video the the better the streaming files look when created.
I have never had any problem capturing till I installed these new drives from Apple.
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Why Drop Frame??

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Do anyone can explain to me why MiniDV tape recording always facing the issue of Drop Frame??no way to solve it?

There are many ways...
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=f939&search=Go&q=dropped+frame
(search is your friend)
Some of the solutions: Don't use your system drive for your media. Export a self contained copy of your sequence, import and send that to tape...
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Suddenly: Dropped Frames on Capture

I've NEVER had a problem with dropped frames. I installed the FCP 5.0.3 upgrade, then had massive problems with dropped frames. In fact, I can't digitize anything: DSR-11, VHS with non-controllable device, nothing. I did the entire troubleshooting routine, then finally trashed my prefs file. Problem solved! I captured everything to my heart's content yesterday. Shut down the G5 last night...turned it back on this morning. Problem is back. Trashed prefs file. Problem won't go away. I can't capture anything.
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I have the same issue with FCP 5, (dropped frames on capture.)
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Let me first tell you my setup:
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8 GB RAM
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Your ideas?????

Clay,
Regarding your statement "My thinking initially about my workflow was to not keep them on the same drive as the footage because my feeling is that the RAID isn't as "safe" as the single 250 GB drive I have inside the G5".
I store all of my media, GFX and project files on whatever FW drive I happen to be using for a project. I NEVER have media for a specific project on two or more drives. For safety's sake, I ALWAYS have my Autosave Vault set to my internal drive, with a relatively high save rate (every 10 min). That way if the FW drive ever failed completely, I'd at least have a recent copy of the project file to work with (even if I have to redigitize the footage or redo the GFX). All I can say is keep all of your media (per project) on one drive - it's been kind of the Bible in this industry for years, and as far as I know it hasn't changed.
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Good Luck!
jeff

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Here are some screen caps of the item info windows:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1696/screenshot20100608at115.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1696/screenshot20100608at115.png
I'm using an external HD, an Iomega 1.5TB - Mac OS Extended (Journaled). However it's USB and not firewire (which again wasn't an issue with my MBP). I've also switched to the iMac hard drive and the problem persists.
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