Playback on HD DVD players or something average Joe(with a HDTV) can watch

With these new Quicktime Codecs are there any solutions/players that
playback HD movies other than off a harddrive on a computer with the "ability/Quicktime" to play them back.
I make moving fine art films and I need to have a strategy so I can get movies created in HD--out--or on something---so they can be viewed in a gallery setting--or purchased
Dual 1.8 G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 2.25 Gigs Ram

You, and others, are waiting for HD DVD's. They're coming but it will be years before format wars end and they'll be expensive.
Only a small percentage of computers have the power to display HD content:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/recommendations.html
These HD files have a tremendous data rate that most computers can't handle. Even when burned as "data" on a DVD most drives can't muster the needed "in and out" speed to play them back.
You'll need a very modern Mac and large display to "showcase" your creations in a local use scenario. Your "buyers" will need special hardware at a considerable expense to be able to view your work.
Remember VHS versus BetaMax? How about "laser disc"players? Those 12 inch monsters didn't stay around very long.

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