Playcount sync with WMP10- ZEN MI

Hi,
OK, i use WMP0 and have firmware 2.20.05- since the upgrade I have been using the improved functions of WMP0 a lot to create auto-playlists, a number of which revolve around how recently I listed to the tracks (eg 4* rated not heard for a month.... etc)
Now the playlists don't automatically update on syncing with the Zen (songs will be added but NOT deleted from a playlist), which is OK, as long as you delete the playlist from the sync list & then add it again & re-sync- that is OK, i can li've with that....
But my question revolves around the Zen & WMP0 updating the playcouont- 90% of the time if i plug in the Zen to the computer it tells WMP0 what songs i have listened to, and playcount and last play date are updated..... but then other times it doesn't- I haven't worked out what i am doing differently, has anyone else?!
Annoying, for example if you listen to the Zen for a week to maybe 200 songs, but then all these tracks playcount don't get updated.... so they still come up on 'not heard for a while' playlists-any ideas?!
and if you don't use this function yet you should, most of the time the autoplaylists are great......!

OK, I'm going to reply to my own post as I now have the answer, and so next time someone else has the problem the answer is here!!
In almost all cases my Zen was updating the playcount and date of last play when sync'd with WMP0, but very occasionally it wouldn't- I have confirmed now that the only times it wouldn't is when the library had to be re-built between syncs with the computer. I guess thus all this info gets lost. For example if the dri've was cleaned, or a battery had been changed beofre the player was fully shut down. If this happened no playcount details would be updated even AFTER the re-build, so until the player was sync'd again no new info wuold be changed.
There was no problem with charging the battery or changing a battery PROVIDED the player was turned completly off at the time (should be the only way you change the battery anyway, I know, but soetimes you get slack,eh!)
So, now I have a lovely set-up, where every few days i plug my Zen into the computer and it downlaods all the info regarding the songs i have listened to back into the library, which then can update my autoplayists, so the next day i can pick to listen to 'top tunes not listened to in the last month' or 'songs from 980-982 listened to this week' (!) and it all works.... The great thing about the auto-playists is that there is so much info stored in the WMP0 librbay you can use to create playlists to then get sent to the Zen without that info actually needing to be stored on the zen.
So if you are not using this I highly recommend it as a fantastic improvement to managing & listening to music on the Micro. ;-)Message Edited by ian_f on -29-2005 :2 PM

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