Playlist sort order

How can I sort the order of the items in a playlist? When I create a new playlist in NokiaOviSuite and drag songs to the playlist from Windows explorer, the sort order is reverse for some reason (z-a order instead of a-z order).

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Bug: iOS 5 and iTunes 10.5 podcast smart playlist sort order and how to fix.

There seems to be a bug in iOS 5 and iTunes 10.5 involving the sort order of a smart playlist of podcasts. I created such a playlist and sorted by release date on iTunes but I noticed it had a different sort order on the iPod Touch.
After playing around with it a bit I found that the only way to preserve the sort order that I have in iTunes on the iPod Touch is to uncheck "Live Updating" in the smart playlist.

Confirming this incredibly annoying bug. Basic list sorting not working... real bottom shelf work apple.
workaround update: limit to must be turned on, set it to an absurdly high number if you don't want to actually limit the playlist, then one of the sortby options in that submenu will work. The live update checkbox is irrelevant from experimentation.
This workaround does NOT fix the fundamental problem: sort order from itunes in smart playlists is not being synced and preserved in ios5 devices.
This is the latest in a long string of debacles which is making me seriously consider swapping to debian stable. (snow leopard to lion was a severe downgrade in performance for anyone doing heavy multitasking.. scheduling is FUBAR... when a command option escape beachballs on a brand new core 17 machine, your OS has serious problems with nice levels)

IOS5 Playlist Sort Order Issue (not smart list just normal playlist)

So i cant figure out why my music wont sort thwy way i wanted to in each of my playlist. Before IOS5 i can sort my songs in my playlist to what ever i wanted and not it just stuck at oldest song added to newest song added.. i want it the other way around...
What happen apple? it was fine in the last OS... am i missing something here.
I would like the ability to sort my music any which way i want to!

Ugh.. This is driving me crazy! Yes, the adding of the rule "playlist is music" fixes this issue when you're syching an ipad or iphone, etc. BUT, that very rule causes iTunes Match to fail! So for any of my devices I have iTunes match enabled for...which is all of them now, my playlists are all jumbled. Here's an example of how weird this issue is:
On my iPad I can see my playlists. When I click on the playlist the music order seems random. I have to select a track to play. Once I've done that, I can click on the picture of the album up at the top where it lists how far into the track you are, etc. and that changes the screen to a full sized picture of the album. At the bottom of THIS screen is another playlist icon (bottom right of the screen). If I tap THAT item, suddenly my playlist is listed CORRECTLY. I can then select the first track of the playlist and tracks will play in the proper order after that.
This is absolutely insane and so opposite of Apple's "it's simple" and "it just works" mantra that it's not even funny. To play my smart playlists in order on my iPad or iphone with iTunes Match enabled, I have to select a playlist, get a track playing, change the display to show the album cover, tap the playlist icon at the bottom of THAT new display, and THEN I can select the first track in my playlist and everything is good. Something needs to be done about this. It's been an issue since iTunes Match was activated. BTW, iTunes Match won't synch smart playlists with the "playlist is music" rule selected because it says that 'playlists that reference other playlists' cannot by synched. It was crazy to have to add that rule to begin with but I could live with it. Now, there's simply no apparent way to fix the issue.

Playlist sort order not carried to iTouch

After upgrade to IOS 5, playlist (podcasts) sort order in iTunes on MBP is not maintained when syncing w/ iTouch. No options on iTouch to sort.
Thoughts or bug?
Related...one podcast would not purge from iTouch via sync, so had to restore iTouch. Did not fix sort order transfer problem.

I am also having the same problem. Running the newest iTunes and iPhone software my smart playlists are not working correctly. My "Recently Added" is correct in iTunes, and if I look at the playlist on my iPhone info in iTunes it is correct there, but the actual playlist on my iPhone is populated entirely with audiobook files. I have tried deleting and recreating the playlist which gives the same results. I have also specified that items within the playlist should be music files only and still get the same results.
I have a playlist that's Top 50 Most Played that's also not behaving properly (ie correct in iTunes but not on my iPhone).
Any suggestions?

Smart playlist sort order issue

I'm having an issue sorting a smart playlist. I've searched through other questions on here but can't find the identical issue.
I've created a smart playlist that contains the contents of two other smart playlists. I've tried to sort this list by 'name', by clicking on the arrow in the column heading, but the list still leaves the two playlists separately, ie. it sorts each original playlist separately, and then puts one after the other in the play order.
I have other smart playlists constucted in the same way, and have no issues with them, and I can't see what the difference is with this one!
I'm using 11.0.4.4, on a Windows 7 PC.

I am also having the same problem. Running the newest iTunes and iPhone software my smart playlists are not working correctly. My "Recently Added" is correct in iTunes, and if I look at the playlist on my iPhone info in iTunes it is correct there, but the actual playlist on my iPhone is populated entirely with audiobook files. I have tried deleting and recreating the playlist which gives the same results. I have also specified that items within the playlist should be music files only and still get the same results.
I have a playlist that's Top 50 Most Played that's also not behaving properly (ie correct in iTunes but not on my iPhone).
Any suggestions?

Random Playlist Sort Order desired

I see someone else asked this and got no answer. I mustg ask anywsay.
I have a large Playlist of tunes I've purchased thru the iTunes store;. I want to put them on a CD ... well, actually, I did ... but they are in an alphabetical order.
For whatever reasons, this gripes me. I want the songs laid down in a random order, just like when they play here on the Mac. Randomly !!
How do I "Sort" that way so the Playl;istg will burn the CD that way?
Thanks a lot for the help.

really good ... that got me to revisit "how" I have the slider set on preferences for the, if you will, "randomness" of the shuffle.
By moving slider to right, towards "unlikely", I now see that each time I toggle "Shuffle" back to "on", that the order of the playlist is really different, noticeably.
Note, the slider was,in center, "Random"
So that about does it, thanks for really making my mind do some extra work. Meaning, your answers were good as they made me investigate more and in the correct direction where I hadn't before.

Ios 5 playlist sorting problem

I'm having a problem with my iPhone 4S playlist sort order after restoring from a backup from my iPhone 4. I have several playlists that I want sorted first, so I've put numbers in front of them. On my iPhone 4, the playlist sort order is correct:
1
2
3
4
A
B
C
However on my iPhone 4S the order is:
A
B
C
1
2
3
4
I can't seem to be able to put my numbered ones first anymore! Anyone know what the problem is or a solution?

If you are still having issues see my other post here:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16472810#16472810
Regards
Padster

IPhone no longer syncs playlists in the same sort order as iTunes

iPhone 4 no longer syncs playlists in the same sort order as iTunes after iOS5 upgrade. Any suggestions?

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, it is very frustrating. That was one functionality that worked very well. Not only is the sort within the playlist bad but the sorting of the playlists themselves is bad. I used to use an undetscore "-" to sort some of my folders to the top of the play list of the most played playlists and that does not work either. It ignores the underscore and just sorts on the alpha character. Hope this gets fixed.

Itunes sort order different in playlist

I'm having a weird sort order problem... in one playlist - I have the column "album" sorted. The songs names (under "name") for one album sort just fine - the names are "ep 1", "ep 2", "ep 3", etc. and appear in that order.
However, if I click that album column to sort by "album by artist" - the song order changes. now they are seemingly random (although I imagine there has to be a reason behind the order).
The sort order of those songs is even different *in another playlist* - ie, they are not even in the same "random" order they show in when I sort them by "album by artist" in the other playlist above. They're in a "different random" order.
Any ideas?
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That's helpful for my issues with iPhone, which are yet another variation on what I'm talking about - but in going through the article, I couldn't find anything that pointed to why my "name" column is not sorting properly for the same artist album.
Selecting all the songs in that album, get info --> shows the artist, album artist and album names (both album artist and artist are exactly the same) - so my point is there are not some kind hidden character problem - or they wouldn't match and therefore the fields would be blank.
If the "album by artist" is the primary sort, what does itunes use for the secondary column to sort? This should help me answer the problem.... it sure doesn't look like "name" column is used as 2nd... because it's not sorted!
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Sort Order in Smart Playlist iTunes 9.1

Now that I've upgraded to 9.1 I am finding that the sort order is gone wrong in Smart Playlists. What is happening is that artists are being sorted by their first name rather than by their last name regardless of what I have entered in Sort Artist field.
However, the sort works as it should in the Library list.
So, using Paul McCartney as an example; I have in the Artist field *Paul McCartney*, in the Sort Artist field I have *McCartney Paul*. When I view my music in the Library list he is sorted under M. But when I view my music in a Smart Playlist he is sorted under P.

First give the list a "kick" by sorting by some other fields, closing and reopening iTunes, and then sorting again by Artist.
Also look at the Sorting tab and make sure the tracks do not have data that could be interfering with the Sort Artist, namely Sort Album Artist.
If neither of those helps, you have probably discovered a bug in 9.1, which you can report here:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

Sort order of audio playlist

Why is it that the sort order on my Music Library Playlists are not replicated on the Apple TV? (They are in different order) I want them in "Date Added" order. Is there a way to get the play list on the Apple TV to sort to this?

I just tried that suggestion, and it worked the first time but not after that...I have a recently added songs smart playlist that I sort by date added, and I just bought a new song to test it out and it was added to the bottom in the ATV playlist even though it's on top (due to sort) in iTunes...
The work around for me is to duplicate the playlist, delete the original, and then resync...

Any way to change sort order of playlists in iTunes?

When you select Music (top left of screen) and Playlists (top middle of screen) in iTunes 11, a list of playlists appears in a pane on the left. The playlists are sorted first by smart playlists, then by normal playlists (with individual playlists sorted alphabetically within each of the two groupings).
I want all the playlists sorted alphabetically, regardless of whether each one is a smart playlist or a normal playist. Any way to do this? Thx

The answer is no, the order cannot be changed.
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How to Control Sort Order of Playlists in iTunes?

As far as I can tell, somewhere along the way iTunes stopped sorting playlists alphabetically, numbers before letters, and started sorting playlists alphabetically, letters before numbers. Or at least that's how it now happens on my iPhone; I think the change happened with the iPhone 3.0 OS update.
Has anyone found a better way to set a sort order than by putting "AA" and "AAA" in front of the playlists they want to have at the top of the list? Because that's an awfully inelegant solution -- to my mind, if you have to use a prefix at all, using 01, 02 et cetera was a far better way of doing things. Is there a setting I can tick to go back to the old way? Or, better still, a way to set that sort order arbitrarily, independent of the playlists' names?
Message was edited by: Andrew Willett

If you label your favorite/priority playlists as A1, A2, A3...B1, B2, B3
Then they will sort the way you want (except on the iPod Classic which seems to have it's own sorting).

Playlists lose sort order when burning to CD

I have several MP3 tracks I need to burn to MP3 CD, and they need to appear in order. I've tagged the MP3 files using XLD (track name/number, etc). I followed the Apple Support Guidelines for burning playlists with a particular sort order. I've tried all 3 methods, including manually dragging the files into the correct order and right-clicking/choosing "Copy to Play Order". The playlist appears in the correct order, however when I go ahead and burn the CD, the contents of the disc appear out of iTunes, regardless of what I do. I've looked all over Google and found people with similar issues to mine but, as of yet, no workable solution.

Has anyone been able to solve this maddening problem? I can't understand why iTunes doesn't sort the disc in alphabetical ascending order. The MP3 files are all tagged sequentially, starting with track number – so why does track 5 appear first in the playlist order? My only other alternative to burning with iTunes is to use Toast, which produces MP3 CDs that don't mount in iTunes. A quick search of the forums proves I'm not the only person having these problems.

The Sort order for a playlist created on my MB Pro is wrong on my iPad. Can I fix this?

When I create a playlist on my MB Pro I cannot guarantee that the playlist will be in the same sort order on my iPad. It is on my MB Air, but not on my iPad. Does anyone know why? How can I correct this?
This is important with classical music where the order of the tracks may be critical.
Thanks in advance
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Try deselecting Sync Music under the Music tab for your iPhone sync preferences with iTunes followed by a sync which should remove all music from your iPhone. Follow this by reselecting Sync Music and your selections below followed by another sync to re-transfer the music.

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