Playlist sorting issue?

My songs won't match the order they are put in on itunes when a sorting choice is reversed..... why? This used to work before.
Here are the details:
If I set a playlist to sort by title, it works when it is on A at the top. But if I click title again, so that the list is now setup so that A is at the bottom, it won't sync correctly. Same thing is true with other ways of sorting the playlists. I click on Date Added so that the oldest songs added are on the top, sync, and it works/syncs correctly on my ipod, but then when i click Date Added again so that the most recently added songs are at the top, sync, and it doesn't work (oldest songs are still at top when I want the newest added ones....).

Sort it the way you want, then right-click on the playlist name and click Copy to Play Order.
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I know this issue has been posted several times and without any real solutions. But I'm going to ask again anyway in case the magical hacking gnomes have found a work-around.
I have many sorting issues. There seems to be a lot of kvetching on here already about how Front Row sorts TV shows. But not only do my shows come up backwards within seasons, in some cases seasons themselves are out of order. For example, I have all 3 seasons of 30 Rock (purchased through iTMS) and they go season 1, season 3, season 2. Several other shows with multiple seasons are the same.
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