Playlists no Longer Shuffle

Hello,
I have a 30gb model. I use a ton of playlists and started noticing a problem shortly after downloading version 8 of Itunes. In Itunes the playlists are set to shuffle. On my Ipod the songs end up being sorted by artist (could be album but I'm not sure). I have tried resetting and all the other five R's that you are supposed to attempt when troubleshooting but nothing has helped. I have seen other discussions that suggest turning the shuffle option on the Ipod itself. I never had to do this in the past. Does anyone have any ideas? Thank you....

If Shuffle is not turned on, on the iPod, the songs are played in the order they are in, in iTunes. It is not shuffling them on the iPod.
I don't want them shuffled on the iPod, I want the shuffle order from iTunes to match on the iPod, which it is not doing right now but used to before iTunes8.
I turned on Shuffle on the iPod, and yes, the playlist shows in the same order as on iTunes, but plays in random order (essentially shuffled twice). I turn off the Shuffle and the iPod playlist doesn't match.
I never had this problem before iTunes8 and haven't changed any settings on either end (other than for testing), so this is clearly a glitch. All I want is to have the iPod playlist play in the same order as on iTunes.
iPod shuffle on = lists in same order as iTunes, but plays randomly
iPod shuffle off = lists in unshuffled order, even though iTunes is shuffled
To copy the playlist to the iPod in the order you are viewing it in iTunes,right click the playlist name and select Copy to play order then sync the iPod.
Do I have to "Copy to Play Order" before each sync, or can I do it once and have it 'stick'?
When this playlist is played on the iPod, it will playback in this order on the iPod everytime you play it unless you have Shuffle turned on, on the iPod.
But it isn't. The play order isn't coming across from iTunes at all.

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