Please help! K8N Neo 2 Platinum instability problems

Hi!
At the fall of last year I bought new computer parts for a new system, the heart of it being a MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum. Ever since then I have had some instability problems. I tried for a while to fix them, but after a while lost the energy and have just accepted them. Now, however, I want to give this forum a try for help. The instability is irritating and I've been thinking of returning the motherboard.
The system consists of:
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum
2 x 512 MB Kingston Hyper X PC3200
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Gainward Geforce 6600GT AGP
Trust 514DX 5.1 Sound Expert Optical
120 GB Seagate SATA HD
NEC DVD-RW ND 2510A
Zalman ZM400A-APF PSU
Nothing is overclocked. I also have a Terratec TV-card that I never use.
I'm running Windows 2000. I have the latest BIOS, 1.C. I have tried many different Nforce drivers, right now I'm running MEI's nWare Release 06.05a.
The driver for the GPU is 91.28. Every other driver should be the latest there is.
The problem I have is that the system freezes up in Windows now and then. The "funny" thing is that I can run Memtest 86 for a whole day, Windows memory diagnostic all the way trough and I can play games (most of the time) for hours. I have also had the computer doing video compression for days and days, so I would say that it seems kind of rock solid. The freezes seems to happen (I'm guessing) when there is lots of communication going on over the southbridge. It often happens when the HD is working and the CPU perhaps get loaded at the same time, or for example if I'm ripping data from a DVD and starts doing something CPU heavy at the same time. That is an almost guaranteed recipe for freezing. Sometimes it freezes when I'm doing "nothing", but I guess it might also be when Windows is swapping, or something.
I remember reading about problems like this before, with other motherboards. I'm thinking that perhaps some BIOS latency thing could fix it. Perhaps a hacked/tweaked BIOS? Or is the motherboard in fact busted and needs to be returned?
Any thoughts, ideas or tips are welcome. Please help!
Thanks in advance!

. . . I'd half to agree 100% on what BAS is pointing out . . . . . . . .
........also, for kakarocht's reply for the matter as well....
.....{ my opinion = 450w at least of a PSU, and, >>> what BAS is stating about's the 12v line, YES, BIG requirement for your system's _ component's of } .......
mr. Charles
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K8N Neo 2 Platinum: having problems formatting NEW SEAGATE 200 GB SATA Drive.

Ok..
I can see the SATA drive during Windows Installation and in Windows XP... but I can't format it.
It freezes up at 20% when I do quick format.. and when I did a normal format it Windows gave me a error saying something about drive may be damage or installed wrong..
Right now I'm running IDE0 Master (Western Digital 200 GB HD) IDE1 Master (Toshiba DVDROM), then the Seagate drive in SATA0.
I see the drive in bios, windows, and windows install...
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i've also tried the f6 and loaded the 'nforce 3 SATA RAID Driver' disc that came with the motherboard and it still froze..
right now i am on my normal bootup (ide wd hd), windows xp detects the hard drive in windows.. i see it in disk management.. i can delete/make partitions.. but i just can't format it.. gaaaaaaah
any help would be much appreciated.

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Originally posted by cfeedback
In years past I was able to install XP w/o a SP on a large drive without any problems. The process I believe I had to take was use the manufacturer's utility to format (in this case MaxBlast from Maxtor) the drive, install Windows, immediately install SP1, and then enable 48-bit LBA via the utility (you can find a .reg file that will enable it as well). While I wouldn't recommend it I never had any problems.
Ah, you just got lucky that Windows didn't try to write something past the 137 GB point. I've always known about this, but coincidentally, this just happened to me the other day where Windows told me I had a 200 GB (186 GB really) installed and ready to go, but then a few days later I kept getting a ton of "Write Delayed" errors. I was so distracted at the time (with other issues), that it didn't occur to me what the problem was, and I ended up losing a lot of data.
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K8N Neo 2 platinum memory problems

Ok to start off I'm trying to run 4 512's corsair xms 3200 on the mother board MS-7025 but problem is if I try and run at 2 gig my PC will not boot up the monitor light stays on amber or in a sleep mode.
But if I run just 1 gig it boots up fine the ram is fine and tested also tried swapping the ram into diffrent slots and it works just not with 2 gig.
I have used the manual and unplugged the ATX power cable and jp1 power before i put the ram in but still no luck
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Quote from: jimbojim on 01-December-06, 07:03:26
I have tried setting the memory voltage at 2.7 and still no luck thanks for ur time
it is not good solution to use 4 sticks at all. read here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=103090.0
is all mem. sticks are identical? can they works separately by 2 sets (2 mem. sticks per set) with same settings?
setup memory limit to 333Mhz, apply command rate to 2T too, bump mem. vcore to 2.75V. apply basic memory timings manually and ensure its acceptable for all four memory sticks.(cas,trcd,trp,tras) other memory settings leave it to auto.
re-test and post back results.

MOVED: K8N Neo 4 Platinum Boot problem

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=110171.0

Ups, I messed up. Thanks for moving this to the correct forum!
Yes, I'm using 1st Dimm slot. I cleared CMOS with and without the power cord, with and without the battery, and every way possible. I even held the button down for 2 minutes.
PSU is Vitsuba 450W. The 12V rail has 20A.
I don't have a better PSU. Should I buy one?
Already tried barebone setup. Just didn't know what it was called. Reseated CPU but didn't change anything. There are no bent pins.
How this happened. I was working in windows and it BSOD. I reset and it didn't boot at first time, but after several tries it finally booted. That was last week. The problem repeated once again yesterday, so I decided to do a clean reinstall of Windows, just in case. So I had some troubles to boot again but it booted ok after some time. Installed windows, drivers, updates, apps, etc and everything was fine. I switched off the system yesterday at night. Today the pc won't boot anymore. So, here I am!
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K8N Neo 2 Platinum Computer just...stopped working! Help needed please.

Hey all. About hmm, a month ago I built myself a new PC (first time I'd done it from scratch and got some useful help here) Specs were:
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum, A64 3200+ Venice, 1GB DDR Corsair Value, Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb, 40GB Hard Disk IDE, 80GB Hard Disk IDE, CD R/RW Drive and a Tagan 420W (23A 12V+) PSU.
Ok, it worked the day I built it just fine and has NO hick-ups or any indication of a problem for the past month. Running temperature was very cool etc. Now, I last turned it on about 24 hrs ago, downloaded some PDF files, shut it down. All was fine. Woke up this morning. Pressed the power button: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. ZIp. No hum, fan movement, anything.
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Quote from: go_for on 01-September-05, 21:47:40
Try the easy way first, disconnect every cable from the back of the computer. Do a CMOS clear/normal as instructed in the manual. Connect the display(with power off), keyboard and power cable. Turn on PSU, press power switch, if it fires up, press and go into bios and do your settings, save and exit. Power off and connect the rest of your external stuff. Power up.
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No luck :( Is it likely that my PSU has fused/broken in some way since I'm getting no response or fan movement?

Boot Problem with K8n Neo 2 Platinum

I cant get my Computer to load the bios
Sometimes when I restart my computer it will lock up in the Bios Sign on and the only way to get it to boot through is to keep resetting the computer and turning the power off and on. It does this on a random basis, Ive also had problems with it locking up if the dynamic oc is turned on.
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MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum Bios 1.4
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Ultra Products X-Connect 500w
2x WD Raptor 10,000rpm SATA HD in Raid 0 cfg
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Corsair memory is known to be troublesome with AMD64.
Nevertheless, if everything is set correctly, it'll work. I've been running the LLPRO 3200 1GB kit at 220MHz without any noticable problems. Run a couple of rounds with Memtest86+ to verify memory functionality.
Can you please give your specifications on the power supply unit (PSU), especially the amperage on the +12 volt rail.
Anders.

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MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum Problem

A lot of things could be wrong but it will be easier to figure out if we know what you did. When you say you changed settings in Bios, do you remember your last settings and what you did?
It might be helpful if you created a sig (as described in the forum rules) to show what you have in your system like my sig below. (Hint- use profile button in sign on screen.)
Things could be broken even if there is no visible evidence (such as flames or melted component) of course.
If I had to guess and your d-bracket reading is correct, corrupted bios requiring new bios chip, but let's not guess as a lot of things could be wrong and you don't want to invest in a new bios chip if the board cannot be brought back to life. Consider removing parts and testing them in an other machine. Start with CPU and memory?
Good luck.

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Hi I am new on this forum.
I have problem with proper configuration of the BIOS in K8N Neo 4 Platinum. My processor is Athlon 64 3000. It has 1800 clock. My BIOS makes default 200MHz x 5. It makes 1000 MHz clock. Will it be good if I change at 200 x 9?
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I have my memory in green slots. Does dual channel works in this case?
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HT freq. 5x
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Check your lan settings
1. Click On Start
2. Click On Control Panel
3. Click On Network and Internet Connections
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The mainboard dont recognize my Soundblaster audigy 2 zs.I tried every pci slot with bios 1.3, 1.36 bitpower and 1.4, but nothing.
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New to the forum so forgive me if I make any mistakes.
Ive been trying to find some info on the k8n neo 2 platinum, but I havent found anything related to my problem, only some info on the k8n neo.
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Hi,
First post here, so I should say I did a search and did actually read the stickys.
Like I said, I'm getting the MSI K8N Neo 4 Platinum and need to know:
1. Does it support NCQ?
2. Can I use "PDP SYSTEMS Memory Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB (512MBx2) DDR PC-3200, Model PDC1G3200LLK" with it?
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I dont plan on doing OC
Thanks in advance for your answers, and sorry about my english.

Quote from: kctay on 10-March-05, 02:14:51
Chrisss,
I think that Tiresmoke's point is that your statements aren't productive, I don't see a history of you trying to ask any of the well versed vetrans here for any help regarding the stability of your system, or inherent problems with the mobo in question. You also don't even list the components that make up your system in your signature which might allow someone to help you without you even asking a valid question.
Statements like this; "I have so many stability issues it's not even funny. I have not overvlocked anything and the PC crashes randomly." simply aren't meaningful without knowing the pertenent facst surrounding your issues. Furthermore, the problems you have may have nothing whatsoever to do with the motherboard.
Sixth, this is a good motherboard for your stated needs, I run the SLI version and have nothing but positive things to say about it. I did extensive research before buying this product, and it really paid off, this is a great motherboard.
Actually yes i did ask: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=75700.0 But only one person helped me. It could be that the SLI version is more stable. Just read the posts. there are a lot of people with issues with the K8N Neo4 Platinum. Not too many with the SLI. So it's not only me.

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Looking for feedback on K8N Neo NF4 Platinum SLI, LUV THIS BOARD

Im no pro but with your raid setup you need to stay with bios 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2. I understand that 3.3 & 3.4 causes problems but the new 3.53 beta bios fixes the problems in 3.3 & 3.4. See below:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=80933.120
Regarding your pcie clock, if you are using coolbits and nvidia drivers only (no MSI drivers at all), then I have used nvidia's ntune to help set the clock. For my x1 msi 6600gt, working backwards from the bus speed optimization it equalled to 106...but I am really not good at this and you should post your question under the VGA portion of this forum for a better answer to that 1 question.
However, using MSI's DOT works well too and its automated.
Btw, the pcie setting has nothing to do with your cpu/memory overclock.

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