Please help, setting up multiple ios devices

Here is what I have.
Iphone 5
Iphone 5
Iphone 4
Ipad 2
Ipad 3
I would like to set up iCloud so that the devices can be backed up without the use of a computer. I would like
1 iphone 5 and Ipad 2 to share photos/data/messages
1 iphone 5 and Ipad 3 to share photos/data/messages
1 iphone 4 on its own
I would like all devices to be able to share downloaded apps/music IF they choose to
Here is how I understand it and please correct me if I am wrong.
I must set up 3 icloud accounts. Share a icloud log in with the two devices that I wish to share between and the iphone 4 on its own
They all can chare the same Apple Store ID for downloads and this will not affect settings/contacts/messaging ect.
iCloud will only hold 1,000 pics/videos before deleting the oldest per icloud account
Music and pictures should still be backed up to a computer.
Apps are remembered on the cloud.
Any input really appreciated!

- 1 iphone 5 and Ipad 2 to share photos/data/messages
> iCloud account 1 (Settings > iCloud) + Apple ID 1 for store purchases (Settings > iTunes & App Stores)
- 1 iphone 5 and Ipad 3 to share photos/data/messages
> iCloud account 2 (Settings > iCloud) + Apple ID 1 for store purchases (Settings > iTunes & App Stores)
- 1 iphone 4 on its own
> iCloud account 3 (Settings > iCloud) + Apple ID 1 for store purchases (Settings > iTunes & App Stores)
- iCloud will only hold 1,000 pics/videos before deleting the oldest per icloud account: Yes
- Music and pictures should still be backed up to a computer: Music could also be stored in the cloud (e.g. iTunes Match), pictures yes (highly recommended)
- Apps are remembered on the cloud: Yes, you can redownload former store purchases again (if the apps still exists)

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but here goes
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