PLEASE READ!!!! Pro Tools user - processor speed upgrades?

Hello all,
I know this is a Logic forum but I thought music people would be able to help me.
I'm a Pro Tools user and I bassically wanted to know if there is any hardware (like some sort of card) that I can buy to manage my processor's workload. I would buy a Pro Tools TDM system, but they cost so much.
I just want my Pro Tools to run smoothly (working with video) and right now, with my single processor - i can't. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
- Josh

There are some suggestions.
it depends on which plugs you need and want to use. For example you can buy TC POWERCORE. Or maybe from Waves a APA. You can choose a UAD Card or, a little bit cheaper a Liquid Mix from Focusrite. All this hardware is used to for managing the plugs, so that your processor is free for other works.
Hope this helps
Martin

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PLEASE READ!!! Pro Tools user - need tips on processor upgrades for movies

Hello all,
I know this is a FCP forum but thought that you may be able to help.
I'm a Pro Tools user and I bassically wanted to know if there is any hardware (like some sort of card) that I can buy to manage my processor's workload. I would buy a Pro Tools TDM system, but they cost so much.
I just want my Pro Tools to run smoothly (working with video) and right now, with my single processor - i can't. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
- Josh

Truth is, you really need multiple CPU's nowadays, especially for your ProTools filters to stay realtime. And your G4 is getting a little long in the tooth. It's going to be hard to keep it being a viable, up to date machine, as you stuff more and more tasks onto it and expect it to keep up in realtime. There are CPU accelerators for your CPU available (check www.macsales.com, xlr8yourmac.com or others), but you cannot make the jump from one to two procs on your system, and it's a game of declining returns...
If money's an issue, why not sell your G4 and buy a used Dual Proc G5? You may find yourself short only about $1k in the transaction, possibly even less if you get lucky. You will definitely see a major performance difference, and you won't have to reinvest in plugins, cards, etc for the new Intel architecture.

Pro Tools User Considering Logic Express

Hi Everyone,
I've been a Pro Tools LE user for a number of years. When I read that Avid would be charging $250 for an upgrade to Pro Tools LE 9 (plus $40 for the mandatory iLok) I decided to explore other options.
My main concern is with CPU overload. I recently purchased a new Mac Mini with 8GB RAM, and a Glyph external hard drive. I had hoped that the dreaded Pro Tools 6101 CPU overload errors would be a thing of the past, but even with a much more powerful computer, the errors continued, and most frustrating, there would be no rhyme or reason. I could play a 16-track project with no problems, but it would choke on a file with no more than 7 or 8 tracks. Extremely frustrating when you are losing creative time to constantly troubleshoot.
Are there any former Pro Tools users out there who have had similar issues? Have you had any better luck with Logic?

Hi,
don't know about Pro Tools, but CPU overload usually has to do with a too low buffer setting, and it's the same in Logic. So, in Pro Tools, try to find a preference where you can set the audio buffer to a higher value, and the CPU overloads should be history.
You should not switch DAW's only because of CPU problems. Ask in the PT forum for other solutions. You should only switch if you need the other features of Logic.
Fox

I'm a Pro Tools user, who just did an "Archive and Install" installation of 10.5.8 over my 10.4.11 on my 2 Ghz G5, now Pro Tools won't launch. I checked the extensions folder and sure enough, the digidesign extensions were left behind. Can I revert back

I'm a Pro Tools user, who just did an "Archive and Install" installation of 10.5.8 over my 10.4.11 on my 2 Ghz G5, now Pro Tools won't launch. I checked the extensions folder and sure enough, the digidesign extensions were left behind. Can I revert back to the "Archive" of my 10.4.11 System from the "Previous Systems" folder? If not, what's the point of creating the "archive"?

Did you select "Preserve User Settings"?
Archive and Install installation automatically moves existing system files to a folder named Previous System, then installs Mac OS X again. (See tip 3.) You cannot start up your computer using a Previous System folder, nor can you "re-bless" the Previous System folder. (See tip 1.)
You can choose to preserve your user and network settings before installing. This option automatically moves existing users, Home directories, and network settings. This also skips the Setup Assistant after installation.
Note: Because the "Preserve user and network settings" option moves, not copies, existing users, Home directories, and network settings, from the Previous Systems folder to the newly installed System, these items will not exist in the Previous Systems folder after the Archive and Install is complete.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1710
Read this:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2196
BTW, it is never recommended to do a major OS change without having a full, bootable backup.

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this is very easy now in logic. look in file -> export and there are a range of options.
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Hi, i have a Sat Pro 6100 and currently my processor is powered by :-
manufacturer : Intel
type : Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor - M
clock speed : 1.8 GHz
Front Side Bus : 400 MHz
1st level cache : 12 KB
2nd level cache : 512 KB
core voltage (AC) : 1.3 V
co-processor : integrated in processor
system bus : PCI
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I need to find out what is compatible with my computer.
Could i use a Mobile Pentium 4 Processor or do i need the specific one that i am currently using that has the M symbol?
http://www.intel.com/products/notebook/processors/index.htm
I was looking at this page
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=826
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Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor - M
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I am interested in this spec and do you know if my computer will work with it?
Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processors
Spec Number
sl726
Processor Frequency
3.06 GHz CPUID String
0F29h
Package Type
478 pin PPGA Core Voltage
1.300
Bus Speed
533 MHz Thermal Guideline
70W
Core Stepping
D1 Thermal Spec
100?C
L2 Cache Size
512 KB Manufacturing Technology
0.13 micron
L2 Cache Speed
3.06 GHz Bus/Core Ratio
23
Spec Update
http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/mp4p/documentation.htm
OEM Order Code
RK80532GE083512
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Thank you
Message was edited by: rachelrising

Unless changes were made to the 6100 series that spares dealers don't know about then the processor is not soldered direct to the board, a locking zif socket is used.
Sorry Rachel, now we're into unknown territory. I looked at http://www.impactcomputers.com/p000363550.html as an example and then using the CPU ID sl6j5 to http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sspec=sl6j5 which indeed is an M processor. Extra parts to consider possibly; the heatsink & fan assembly. As stated before, the current one may only be rated to match the processor originally fitted, on the other hand it may be ok. I suspect nothing else would need changing - I have no idea if Tosh would have limited the BIOS to recognise only one or two CPU types per model (unlikely).
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I have a Mac Pro 2006 running on leopard and I need to upgrade my Pro Tool Studio LE 7 to 8 so it can work on Leopard.. anyone knows where I can buy the upgrade version for this? and how much does it cost?

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Hello all,
I'm a Pro Tools user and I bassically wanted to know if there is any hardware (like some sort of card) that I can buy to manage my processor's workload. I would buy a Pro Tools TDM system, but they cost so much.
I just want my Pro Tools to run smoothly (working with video) and right now, with my single processor - i can't. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
- Josh

No card available with ProTools.
Unless you buy a ProTools mix or HD system (btw mix systema are way down in price and still work fine...) you have to rely on your processor strenght. It also depends on which software version of ProTools you are running. If you still have 6.x, no matter if you have 2 or 4 processor you can only use one at a maximum percentage of 85%, if you have ProTools 7.x you can take advantage of a multiprocessor machine and squeeze processor usage at 99%. Anyway video managing of ProTools LE is not very powerful, you will surely find limitations...
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Pro Tools or Logic

I'm not writing this thread to start a war, its just that I'm having a very hard time deciding between Pro Tools or Logic. I would eventually like to use both, but I can only afford to go with one right now and I really only want to focus my attention on one at this time as well.
Overall, I am really leaning towards Logic with a MOTU interface. However, the more I read the Pro Tools Vs. Logic debate, the more I start to question what to go with. I read so many posts with people bashing Pro Tools, but most people I know use it, most pro studios use it, and most musicians I've researched use it. Logic, on the other hand, seems like a complete package, made more for the creative side of composing/songwriting. I can get an awesome studio set with Logic/MOTU for MUCH less $$ than a Pro tools rig.
However, it seems like going the Pro Tools LE route, Digi 002, (which Is all I can afford at this point), I will be compromising quality overall. The only reason I can see going with Pro Tools is because so many people use it and it would be easy to transfer files with other Pro Tools users. Other than that, I really would like to take the Logic route.
For the record, I play guitar and bass and use drum machines. I would like to start getting more familar with midi and Logic seems like a good program for that.
What do you all think. This decision is really driving me crazy. Thanks.

Jack,
I am a composer who has used Pro Tools since it came out over a decade ago. I have had all kinds of systems, as Digi changed over the years.
I finally ran out of money when HD came out. I could not afford to upgrade my Mix system, yet I wanted to use the most current version of the program, which Mix no longer supported. So I sold it, and got LE and an 002R. I have used this system for over a year. I have done national commercials with it and it has paid for itself many times.
I use a lot of stereo samples. That eats up tracks. The 32 track limit in LE, and the instability of virtual instrument plug ins in LE made me start thinking about Logic. It wasn't the converters in the 002R....they are terrible and you must buy something like an Apogee Mini Me and then it sounds great going in.
But it was a little over a week ago that I bought Logic 7.2. Yesterday, I had a song with 58 tracks playing back just fine on my G5. The virtual instruments work great too. It is a much harder program to use than Pro Tools, but it is much richer and deeper. There are frustrating things about it that make you scratch your head, but these are minor compared to what it gives back to you.
Unless you have over 10 grand to get a REAL Pro Tools system, and then face the fact that it will be replaced by something else in a couple years that will require you to sink thousands more into it, get Logic and take on the learning curve. Pro Tools is best for cutting audio, not dealing with midi and composers. And, I think now that Apple owns it, it will only get better, and probably easier, to work with. Buying into Digi, remember, is buying into a hardware company. They want people to get a "taste" of Pro Tools with LE, and then move up to to HD. They don't understand that most people, with the power of computers today, ain't moving up to a 10 grand system when they can do almost all of that in Logic, or even Digital Performer, Nuendo, etc.
Keep saying this to yourself...."Digidesign is a hardware company. They want and need me to buy HARDWARE to remain in existence. Hardware....hardware...money...more money.
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Take - As in Pro Tools?

Beign a Logic guy for about 6 years now, I was recently in a session with a Pro Tools user and wacthed as he quickly flipped through different takes of a song via a pull down menu. No deleting, repeated tracks, folders...
Is there any such feature in Logic that I have been missing all this time?
Also, it seemed very convenient that all regions (12) had the various track names/colours applied. I only know how to give them 1 name at a time and color them later.
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So you can
use take one of the piano with take 3 of the lead
guitar, and then, say, you decide you actually want
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Please Note: Pro Tools 8.0.3 software (and higher) does not support some retired products, including:
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http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=353265
I have Leopard 10.5.8 and I have Pro Tools M-Powered 8. Exact.
Pro Tools M-Powered 8 (Full Version)
IMPORTANT NOTE: To run Pro Tools specific hardware is required!
Please check the compatibility of your computer system before you buy your Pro Tools software:http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=353265
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Hardware/Software: Supported M-Audio hardware peripheral, for example M-Audio FireWire 1814, M-Audio Firewire 410, M-Audio Delta 44, Delta 66, and many more Pro Tools M-Powered 8 compatible M-Audio devices and drivers. Please click here to check specific product compatibility for Windows or Mac
System Memory: 1 GB minimum, 2 GB or more recommended for best performance
Drive: DVD-ROM or equivalent optical drive for software installation
Available USB port for iLok USB Smart Key (included)
Important: Please note that with boxed versions of this product, you may need to download a free update to the latest versionhere.
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ALL info available is contrary to your claims.

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Mac OS X Compatibility Alerts
Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard)
Pro Tools Software versions below 8.0.3 are not compatible with Snow Leopard. Pro Tools 8.0.5 is a free update for Pro Tools 8 owners. Version 8.0.5 supports the following Mac OS X versions, on Intel-based Macs only:
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As i was installing 10.4.11 through software update an error occoured in the update. I then had to do an archive install. Once installed i ran the 10.4.11 combo update. Everything is working fine except Pro Tools. Everytime i try to launch the application i get the "black screen of death". I have tried uninstalling and re installing pro tools with no luck. I have also verified my HD, along with running the pre binding script application. Do i have to go back to 10.4.9? to reinstall pro tools, and if so is the only way of doing this by archive and installing off my original install disc? I am desperate as this is my lively hood and projects are due!

Hi Thomas,
I'm not a pro tools user but I have been perusing the digidesign site and was wondering if you had tried downloading and running the OS X Prebinding script? According to digidesign:
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I never use the keyframes for audio.
Because indeed the audio-guy will not receive that info from the omf.
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