Pls advise PSU and CPU temp.

At last i have decided to go for Herolchi HEC 525w Dual Fan Ball Bearing ATX Power Supply, after installing the New PSU my CPU Temperature go up by 3 degree...not sure whether all the RAIL will effect the temperature ?
Pls take a look on my comparison : -
Old PSU Young-Year 480W (Taiwan)
Vcore : 1.48 ~ 1.50
+ 3.3v : 3.10 ~ 3.17
+ 5v : 5.08 (no changes)
+ 12v : 11.64 ~ 12.00
System : 35 ~ 38 degree
CPU idle : 40 degree
full load : 57 degree (Prime95 & CPU burn-In)
New HEC 525W (recommded my Intel and AMP)
Vcore : 1.47 ~ 1.50
+ 3.3v : 3.30 ~ 3.36
+ 5v : 4.97 ~ 5.0
+ 12v : 11.76 ~ 11.88 (never hit to 12.00)
System : 36 ~ 39 degree
CPU idle : 43 degree
full load : 60 degree (Prime 95 & CPU burn-in)
Understand that all the variance for the above RAIL are within Spec +_ 5%
Hi All, pls help to post all your RAIL lowest/highest for +3.3v, +5.0v and +12v..as well as system/CPU temperature, thanks....

I would not worry about the extra 3 Deg. C that the CPU is now running at. 60C under full load is well withen normal specs. ..As for the new PSU, I am not familiar with that brand...If you could ,would you POST the AMPS on the RAILS, as that is more important than the Volts...You can find the AMP specs. on the side sticker of the PSU..ie..+12V=?A, +3.3V=?A, +5.0V=?A...THANX..Sean REILLY875

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