Pls hlp: Oracle 8.16 and Forms/Reports 6i Install

I am currently running Oracle 8.16 on WIN2K w/o any problems. I want to install Forms and Reports 6i on same machine. Pls tell me how to correctly install Forms and Reports 6i and allow me to use current database in Oracle 8.16..

Just wondering if you were successful installing the REPORTS. I have to do the same thing. Any lead how to go about this?
THanks.

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I am currently running Oracle 8.16 on WIN2K w/o any problems. I want to install Forms and Reports 6i on same machine. Pls tell me how to correctly install Forms and Reports 6i and allow me to use current database in Oracle 8.16.. Thanks

First of all, I wouldn't recommend it. We have many years of experience with Oracle versions 7 through 8i Release 2 and the various incantations of Developer from 2.1 through 6i and the simple fact is that if you try to run them on the same NT system, you will have nothing but headaches. In fact, I would not even run Forms Server and Reports Server on the same machine and definitely NOT either on an 8.1.6 server.
That having been said, begin by reading the 8i Administrator's Guide for Release 2 (8.1.6) for Windows NT. Chapter 3 explains the Optimal Flexible Architecture (OFA, which is a solution to the problem you describe but which cannot easily be retrofit onto even the most current versions of Developer, which use older versions of Net8. This chapter should discourage you even more, but if it doesn't....
Remember that you will need to create your 8.1.6 ORACLE_HOME, FIRST! Install your server there.
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2. Don't install these on the same machine as each other or 8.1.6 if you are going to use OEM to start them. In other words, install them as NT services.
3. Ideally (and I mean STRONGLY recommended). Create two adminstrator-level accounts, one for each of Reports Server and Forms Server and do the install as someone in this account. Make sure that you have a default printer set up for the Oracle Reports Server account.
4. Make sure that your DEFAULT ORACLE_HOME is the home of the Forms Server for the Forms Server operation (and the DEFAULT ORACLE_HOME for the REPORTS_SERVER is the Reports Server ORACLE_HOME). This is why you do not want to install these as Administrator. If you do, you'll run into loads of problems with networking.
5. You will need to make note of your NT Registry AFTER the 8.1.6 install but BEFORE the Forms/Reports server install and AFTER the Forms/Reports server install. The registry entries for Oracle products changed with OFA so you will end up with a hybrid of the pre-OFA (Forms/Reports registry) and the OFA registry. Since software using the former will not look for keys created by the latter, make sure that you enter your configuration details (such as REPORTS60_REPORTS_SERVER) in the right branch or things won't work and you won't know why.
Again, I would strongly recommend that you don't do this, but rather, you get a couple of dedicated machines to run the Forms and Reports Server.
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I am thinking about doing an Oracle certification course- Oracle Database 11g Administrator or Oracle PL/SQL and Forms Developer.
Oracle Database 11g OCP and OCM certification requires 3 mandatory training courses to be completed that costs between $1900 and $3250/each. Oracle PL/SQL certication doesn't require any mandatory training course.
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Hello dear Oracle Forms users/developers,
The "Oracle Forms: Features Obsolescence for Release 9i", which I downloaded from OTN, clearly indicates that the client-server runtime will be obsolete in 9i, and (quote) "users who currently deploy their application in a client-server environment and who wish to upgrade to 9i will have to Web-deploy their application as part of the upgrade process" (page 3). It also indicates that Oracle Graphics will not be shipped with Forms 9i. If someone needs Graphics, then Graphics 6i (not 9i) need to be installed into a separate Oracle_Home...
I have been trying to convince some Oracle product managers for years to continue supporting the runtime environment. Oracle always refused to include the "runtime only" installation option for any flavor of unix (eventhough it was available for windows).
The above news (of the fading away of client-server runtime option) really did upset me.
We have been developing applications with Oracle Forms/Reports/Graphics for the client-server environment as the database frontend to different simulation models. Our forms includes buttons that allows the end-users to download/upload ascii files to the file system/database. We and our customers (including the international users) are very happy with the client-server runtime option and don't want to use the forms server (or the iAS) just to be able to run these complex forms/reports/graphics applications.
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1. Oracle forms/reports services included only in the enterprise version of 9iAS, not the standard version.
2. If the end-user is licensed for Oracle database server and has a copy of Forms/Reports Developer 6i, then they can run the client-server application without any extra license (number of users does not apply in this case).
3. Forms/Reports Developer 6i is not a separate product and could be obtained by purchasing iDS (internet Developer Suite) or iAS EE license. iDS is a windows only product and includes designer 6i, Jdeveloper additional to the forms/reports developer 6i. Someone might say, "the end-user might not need all the extra just to be able to run your forms". Answer to that is the cost of purchasing a 2 years license for iDS is almost equal or cheaper than the cost of 2 years named user license (based on the fact that 9iAS EE has a 10 named user minimum requirement). And the end-user can install only the forms/reports part of iDS (given the fact that forms/reports 6i is available for different platforms including solaris - does not have to be windows).
4. This information if from the Oracle Partnership and any Oracle employee which doubts about it should talk to them to verify.
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Given all these FACTS (our satisfaction level with the client-server environment with Forms/Reports Developer 6i and the licensing information) I would like to ask to those Oracle employees (or personnel) how they justified the termination of the client-server runtime in Forms 9i?
If the Forms/Reports Developer 6i will be the only (and the last) version that supports client-server runtime environment, how long Oracle is going to support it?
I need to know to decide if we should use the forms/reports in our future projects or not.
Thank you (for reading all this crap) and best regards.
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Question 1
I would like to ask to those Oracle employees (or personnel) how they justified the termination of the client-server runtime in Forms 9i?
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I have an interest in establishing how the Oracle System Catalogues cope with particular changes. I have never used Oracle, but I have carried out the same test on another RDBMS. If I had access to Oracle I would have carried out this test myself.
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now it becomes challenging. The conceptual shift required to get to Identifiers is similar in scale to the shift involved in going from Newtonian Mechanics to Quantum Mechanics or from Cartesian Space-Time to Special Relativity, with the added proviso that the concept of identity built into the Relational Model is implicit rather than explicit as respectively in the cases of Newton and Descartes.
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In your next paragraph I disagree that there is only a shift of problem. The dropping of whole tables or the deletion of columns is on a different scale from the changes that I am talking about, which do not but could get sensibly reflected in the current Code Class RDBMSs and applications. I'm aware that no application development tool allows what you say, (the problem is actually in the system tables) but I have achieved the completely analogous result in the application that I have developed.
Your comments about the AREAS table precisely highlight the issues of permanence and transience on which all of my work sits. What are you doing when you drop the table and replace it with a table with the same name? Do you want to think of the "new" table as the SAME as the "old" table or is it something entirely DIFFERENT, in which case giving it the name of a table that you have dropped might easily result in serious confusion.
If the new table is doing the same conceptual job as the old, then I would certainly want the continuity of its existence to be explicitly preserved, via the enduring identifier value (which reflects the fact that we are thinking of the table as having continuity of existence). So I would alter the table rather than dropping it and recreating it.
If I have ended up in a cul-de-sac (I've been there) and I have to throw away the table and all its related operators, then that is what happens if I don't get it right first time. I don't want any continuity, and I'll have to junk all the form and report etc operators unless I want to preserve some bits for my next attempt. I certainly won't expect anything to continue to work, because there is nothing to work on.
Your use of the expression "fancy name-independent code" is disappointing in all respects. I experience your use of "fancy" as sarcastic, and my full expression for "name-independent code" is "attribute independent and relative position independent identifier" whose acronym is "airpii". This is not just name-independent, it's independent of all other attribute and relative position values in the same row. It's certainly not a code: the word does not have a place in Identifier talk, since it has been replaced by abbreviations and acronyms, which are undiluted attribute; they don't have identity mixed up in them as with the "codes" of the "Codes Mistake". (In RDBMSs the mistake is called the "Names Mistake" because table and column names bear identity as well as attribute; there are no codes.)
I very much hope that our dialogue can continue - other dialogues have stopped at this sort of stage. On my website www.identifiers.org there is a page called "Identifiers - a Visual Representation" that sets out to communicate identifiers visually, that I created to communicate this entirely new concept in a different way after another database professional got stuck. I understand from another forum user that there may be a problem getting hold of the pdf file concerned if using Firefox - please let me know.
I have an RDBMS application on a SCO partition on a PC that proved identifiers for me. I can input a work instruction successfully using one set of abbreviations (the codes of old) and the stored instruction row makes no reference to the abbreviations that I have input - there's just a single identifier value in the appropriate column of the work instructions relation. The relationship between the abbreviations and the identifier value becomes clear from rows in other relations.
If I then want for some good reason (some purely operational entity has been renamed) to change one of the abbreviations when also changing the full name, I can do so in the relevant relation - this is an abbreviation rather than a code that I am now dealing with; I can change it because it's not also used for joins.
When I input the next work instruction I use the new abbreviation rather than the old; the form is entirely happy and works fine, and exactly the same identifier value ends up in the appropriate column of the work instruction relation. So I have input a different set of values to achieve exactly the same result. Is this crazy? No! This reflects the ways in which we naturally think and talk, and at last the application makes sense - I don't have to use a code that does not tie up with the name. The core of the issue is that I have been able to reflect external CHANGE fully and successfully in the database. We are surrounded by change, but RDBMSs and applications currently do not allow us to process it properly.
I acknowledge that no application development tool works in this way at present, but that's the fault of the architecture of system tables, which I intend to remedy. One can't remove the Codes Mistake from these tables.
However Identifier Class Applications can be developed using Code Class RDBMSs, because the developer has control over the application relation design, which can be carried out under identifier principles. I redeveloped from relation design scratch a very successful application, so I had a good placebo. In my environment I needed a 4GL form development tool so that I could get identifier values (and other attribute values) from attribute input rather than being limited to searching for a "code" to get other row values.
If seeing is believing and of interest, then we might arrange for you to see the IC application working.
Yours,
George

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