PM G4 Quicksilver (dual 800)

Hi @ all
Is there any way to make a Quicksilver G4 (dual 800) more quiet? Now my Quicksilver is very loud so I can't make my work while the System is on. I thought about changing the PSU-Fan and the Case-Fan.
Is there a possybility to change the Heatsink that is installed now to copper or any other Heatsink?
I even need a airport card for the Quicksilver where can I get this from and what is the price for it?
Thx for your help
PowerMac G4 Quicksilver Mac OS X (10.4.7) dual 800, 1.5GB RAM 500GB HDD

Hi, positioning the computer actually makes more a difference than most folks suspect. Putting it behind the desk, in the corner, and so on allows other things to come between you and the sound. As long as the air flow isn't obstructed, that's a good thing. Have you blown out the ducts/openings lately? Dust buildup causes the fans to work harder. Replacing internal devices with external ones also takes the load off the computer, causing it to run quieter. Here are even more radical ideas if the sound is driving you nuts:
1> Water cooling kits. (Not for the faint of heart!)
2> Sound insulation inside the case -- Dynamat, packing foam, and other material. You can use this on particular devices that are loud (say like older hard drives) or just line the case itself with the material.
HTH,
~FifthWheel

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