PMS Color won't delete.

http://indesignsecrets.com/color-swatches-that-wont-delete.php
At the last second, we are printing digitally, so I went into the ID CS4 document (Mac OSX 10.5.8) and I can not delete the PMS swatch so I can replace it with a CMYK. I tried the things on the post above (excluding that codeing thing which I am not about to attempt). Anyone know why. My only workaround was to cut and paste everything into a new document. But I do not like the idea of that at all. The new doc has different margins, guides, preferences. I will be able to get by on this bandaid but moving forward, this can be a bigger issue. Any ideas? Please do not reply if you havent read the above post. Thanks in advance.

It's not a corrupt document. There is a condition within Quark and In Design whereas someone has tried to remap spot colors in a native document, but the color still remains active in a linked placed image. What you need to do is find the linked file and change the name of the spot color to something else. If you have an object in the page layout that is designated that mystery spot color, you are currently in a feed back color loop and this is why you can not delete it. Again, you need to change the spot color name in the link. If the placed file is a nested EPS and that EPS has an embeded object that has the spot color, your only choice is to create a new layout document, locate the bad linked file and dig it out manually.
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quote:
Originally posted by:
MalRom
HI there, I have been given some PSM colors to use for a
website but cant find how to convert them to CMYK or RGB. Does
anyone know anything about PMS colors and how I would go about
converting?
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