PMS swatch converted to CMYK does not match colour values of Pantone Colour Book

I am working in Adobe Illustrator CS6 and InDesign CS6.
When I create a swatch using Pantone colour books (solid coated) and then convert the swatch to CMYK the values differ between programs and also differ to my hard copy of Pantone Colour Bridge.
I have followed the Workaround 1 on http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html#main-pars_text_11 which was helpful - now the CMYK values produced in Illustrator and InDesign match HOWEVER they still differ from my hard copy of Pantone Colour Bridge.
I copied the leagacy files from CS4 - is it possible the CMYK values embedded in these files are out of date or is it possible that the CMYK values in the Colour Bridge book have since changed?

Pantone has updated their CMYK match values for PMS colors over time, and so has Adobe. Adobe and pantone have their own values or matches, so they have never matched.
The values between CS6 Illustrator and InDesign should have matched (atleast the files are named exactly the same), so not sure going back to CS4 swatches wasa a good move for you, unless you have a load of older files you are trying to match.
The biggest differences between updates to the swatch colors you will see in tradeoffs between CMY & K.
If you want your CMYK matches for PMS colors to match your bridge book, you may have to manually make a color book .ase file yourself, or try downloading the pantone color manager. Pantone has made this a complicated, multistep process relying on registering a product. Pantone has a history of failed digital products, and using bait & swtich tactics, so do not trust anything they have to offer anymore, but they were in the right place at the right time and exist as the standard for spot color in the US & some other countries.
http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?pg=21054&ca=12
http://pantone.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1803

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-- Prior to encryption, hashing or keyed hashing, CLOB datatype is
-- converted to AL32UTF8. This allows cryptographic data to be
-- transferred and understood between databases with different
-- character sets, across character set changes and between
-- separate processes (for example, Java programs).
-- If your 3rd party MD5 free tool (MD5 Checksum Calculator 0.0.5.58 or WinMD5Free v1.20) do not use the AL32UTF8 character set then the hashes will likely be different. You can't modify DBMS_CRYPTO so if the hashes need to match you need to use 3rd party tools that either use the correct character set or can be configured to use the correct character set.
The problem in the other thread was how to WRITE Java code that uses the correct character set and I showed that OP how to do that.
So unless you are writing your own Java code all of that code you copied and pasted is useless for your use case.

DBMS_CRYTPO MD5 value does NOT match 3rd party MD5 tools

Hello,
I am using Oracle Version: 11.2.4.
I have a problem where the MD5 value from DBMS_CRYPTO does not match the hash value from 3rd party MD5 free tool (MD5 Checksum Calculator 0.0.5.58 or WinMD5Free v1.20) and also the MD5 hash value calculated by an ingestion tool where I am transferring files to. The MD5 hash value that the ingestion tool calculates is the same as the 3rd party MD5 free tools I have. This occurs only on some of the XML files that I generate using XSQL(xmlserialize, xmlagg, xmlelement, etc.) and DBMS_XSLPROCESSOR on a Linux OS. The XML files are transferred from the Unix OS to my Windows 7 OS via filezilla.
I found a thread on this forum that also had a similar issue so I copy/paste the java functions. They are listed below(both are the same expect for the character set):
create or replace java source named "MD5_UTF_8" as
import java.security.MessageDigest;
import java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException;
import java.sql.Clob;
import java.sql.Blob;
public class MD5_UTF_8 {
private static final byte [] hexDigit = {
     '0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9','A','B','C','D','E','F'
/** Converts a byte array to a hex string
* Returns an empty string if the byte array is null
public static final String toHexString(byte [] bytes) {
if (bytes == null) return new String("");
StringBuffer buf = new StringBuffer(bytes.length * 2);
for (int i = 0; i < bytes.length; i++) {
buf.append((char) hexDigit[((bytes[i] >>> 4) & 0x0F)]);
buf.append((char) hexDigit[(bytes[i] & 0x0F)]);
return buf.toString();
// Convert Hex String to Byte Array
public static final byte[] byteArrayFromHexString(String str) {
byte[] bytes = new byte[str.length() / 2];
for (int i = 0; i < bytes.length; i++)
bytes[i] = (byte) Integer.parseInt(str.substring(2 * i, 2 * i + 2), 16);
return bytes;
public static String getMD5HashFromClob(Clob inhalt) throws Exception{
MessageDigest algorithm;
StringBuffer hexString;
String s = null;
String salida = null;
int i;
byte[] digest;
String tepFordigest = inhalt.getSubString(1L, (int)inhalt.length());
try {
algorithm = MessageDigest.getInstance("MD5_UTF_8");
algorithm.reset();
algorithm.update(tepFordigest.getBytes("UTF-8"));
digest = algorithm.digest();
s = toHexString(digest);
} catch (java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException nsae) {
s = "No es posible cifrar MD5";
return s;
sho err
alter java source "MD5_UTF_8" compile
sho err
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION get_md5_UTF_8_CLOB(inhalt CLOB) RETURN VARCHAR2 DETERMINISTIC
AS LANGUAGE JAVA
name 'MD5_UTF_8.getMD5HashFromClob(java.sql.Clob) return java.lang.String';
create or replace java source named "MD5" as
import java.security.MessageDigest;
import java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException;
import java.sql.Clob;
import java.sql.Blob;
public class MD5 {
private static final byte [] hexDigit = {
     '0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9','A','B','C','D','E','F'
/** Converts a byte array to a hex string
* Returns an empty string if the byte array is null
public static final String toHexString(byte [] bytes) {
if (bytes == null) return new String("");
StringBuffer buf = new StringBuffer(bytes.length * 2);
for (int i = 0; i < bytes.length; i++) {
buf.append((char) hexDigit[((bytes[i] >>> 4) & 0x0F)]);
buf.append((char) hexDigit[(bytes[i] & 0x0F)]);
return buf.toString();
// Convert Hex String to Byte Array
public static final byte[] byteArrayFromHexString(String str) {
byte[] bytes = new byte[str.length() / 2];
for (int i = 0; i < bytes.length; i++)
bytes[i] = (byte) Integer.parseInt(str.substring(2 * i, 2 * i + 2), 16);
return bytes;
public static String getMD5HashFromClob(Clob inhalt) throws Exception{
MessageDigest algorithm;
StringBuffer hexString;
String s = null;
String salida = null;
int i;
byte[] digest;
String tepFordigest = inhalt.getSubString(1L, (int)inhalt.length());
try {
algorithm = MessageDigest.getInstance("MD5");
algorithm.reset();
algorithm.update(tepFordigest.getBytes());
digest = algorithm.digest();
s = toHexString(digest);
} catch (java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException nsae) {
s = "No es posible cifrar MD5";
return s;
sho err
alter java source "MD5" compile
sho err
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION get_md5_CLOB(inhalt CLOB) RETURN VARCHAR2 DETERMINISTIC
AS LANGUAGE JAVA
name 'MD5.getMD5HashFromClob(java.sql.Clob) return java.lang.String';
I created the above java functions and added the calls to them in my package to see what hash values they would produce but I am getting "ORA-29532: Java call terminated by uncaught Java exception: java.nio.BufferOverflowException " the XML is about 60mb.
package code sniippets:
declare
l_hash raw(2000);
l_checksum_md5 varchar2(2000);
l_checksum_md5_utf_8 varchar2(2000);
Begin
t_checksum := lower(RAWTOHEX(dbms_crypto.hash(src=>l_clob,typ=>dbms_crypto.hash_md5)));
l_hash := get_md5_CLOB (l_clob);
l_checksum_md5 := lower(rawtohex(l_hash));
l_hash := get_md5_UTF_8_CLOB (l_clob);
l_checksum_md5_UTF_8 := lower(rawtohex(l_hash));
Please help,
Thank You in advance
Don
Edited by: 972551 on Nov 21, 2012 12:45 PM

Thanks for the reply but my syntax is correct.
t_checksum := lower(RAWTOHEX(dbms_crypto.hash(src=>l_clob,typ=>dbms_crypto.hash_md5)));
The typ argument tells dbms_crypto what type of hash value to produce.
This is from the Oracle Docs:
Table 24-3 DBMS_CRYPTO Cryptographic Hash Functions
Name      Description
HASH_MD4 Produces a 128-bit hash, or message digest of the input message
HASH_MD5 Also produces a 128-bit hash, but is more complex than MD4
HASH_SH1 Secure Hash Algorithm (SHA). Produces a 160-bit hash.
for further details see: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B19306_01/appdev.102/b14258/d_crypto.htm#i1002022
Edited by: 972551 on Nov 21, 2012 12:46 PM

[nQSError: 46046] Datetime value -09-05 does not match the specified format. (HY000)

Hi,
I am getting the following error while selecting the date column from Report. Please suggest the solution or work around.
SET VARIABLE QUERY_SRC_CD='Report';SELECT
   0 s_0,
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FROM "PPMC SA"
ORDER BY 1, 2 ASC NULLS LAST, 3 ASC NULLS LAST, 4 ASC NULLS LAST
FETCH FIRST 65001 ROWS ONLY
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Thanks in Advance,
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Pls mark if correct/helpful.

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