PMS to RGB: Pantone says PMS145C=R202 G119 B0, but Photoshop differs

Have been meaning to ask this question for some time.
I have (for example) an object set to spot color PMS 145 C 100% solid in an Adobe Illustrator drawing.
According to my Pantone Color Bridge Coated swatchbook, PMS 145 C "translates" to R 202 G 119 B 0.
BUT, if I "open" that AI file in Photoshop, and eyedropper that spot in the drawing, the RGB "translation" comes in as R 229 G 142 B 26.
I'm using CS2, and with Photoshop Color Settings at the default "North American General Purpose 2" at open time.
If I open the AI file as 300ppi CMYK, the spot color "translates" to the RGB values as above.
If I do this same operation with Photoshop set to open the AI file as 300ppi RGB, the same color eyedrops as R 230 G 143 B 26 (which is close, but not the same).
But NEITHER of these are the same as what Pantone publishes as the "official" equivalent RGB to the Spot color.
Why the discrepancy between Pantone's published equivalent and what Photoshop does?

Yes, yes, I do understand that what I see on my monitor often bears little resemblance to what comes out on any printer . . . or on another monitor for that matter. This is why I use the eyedropper to test a CMYK color mix, for example, and compare that to a *printed* CMYK swatchbook to see what it might "really" look like when printed offset. I say "might" because I understand that there's still a matter of the actual press this will run on.
The concern here is getting Photoshop software to "translate" a numeric PMS color defined in an AI file to the numeric RGB equivalent as published by Pantone. I know that RGB value will look different on different monitors, but if we can get the software to convert "PMS 145 C" that's defined as the color fill of a vector object in an AI file to RGB as 202, 119, 0 (Pantone's own published equivalent), then at least we have a conversion, regardless of how anyone's monitor displays it!
For example, an object filled with solid 100% PMS 145 C drawn in AI, "should" translate to RGB 202, 119, 0 when opened in Photoshop when I ask it to convert the colors at open time to RGB. With the file open in Photoshop in this situation, I would hope that the flat, 100% tint color area comes in as R 202, G 119, B 0 when it is tested with the eyedropper. From a programmatic standpoint, wouldn't this be a matter of maintaining a "table" of equivalent values in the Photoshop software [wherein PMS 145 C = R 202 G 119 B 0], whereupon the softwware could make a color translation based on a table lookup, and display that color as that number regardless of what the displaying monitor might do to it.

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On my own, I discovered the following, which worked (one responder got the solution part correct for Google): For Yahoo, where I just use a standard login with no extra verification, I had to go into Yahoo and change my password. Once I did this, the new iPhone had no problem registering accepting my Yahoo account. I WAS, however, using the correct password and user name all along, for those who did not think that was the case. The problem is on the iPhone software side. For Google, I use a two step verification, and for that, one must go to Google Mail and obtain a specific, unique password, that is designed to work only on iPhones. Hope this helps anyone else with this dilemma.

Trying to download itunes on new computer and it says thank you for downloading but nothing happened

trying to download itunes on new computer and it says thank you for downloading but nothing happened

Clear your broswer's cache and then try again.

Wont let me update or download free apps says i need payment verification but im not buying anything

wont let me update or download free apps says i need payment verification but im not buying anything

Howdy Irishinked,
Thanks for using the Apple Support Communities.
If you're being prompted that your payment information needs to be veriefied, then there is some aspect of your payment type which is being denied by your financial institution. I'd like you to please follow the steps below to verify your information.
Open iTunes. If you are signed in to iTunes, skip to step 4.
Note: Verify that you are signed in to the correct iTunes account. If you are unsure which account you're signed into, choose Store > Sign Out and proceed to step 2.
Choose Store > Sign In.
Enter your account name and password, then click the Sign In button.
Choose Store > View My Account.
Click the Edit Payment Information button.
In the Payment Method section, choose None.
Click the Done button at the bottom of the page.
Click the Edit Payment Information button again.
Enter your billing address exactly as it appears on your credit card statement.
Select your credit card type in the Payment Method section.
Enter your credit card information, your card's security code, and the expiration date.
Click the Done button at the bottom of the page.
If the issue persists, contact your credit card company and verify that they and any company they use to process credit card authorizations have the correct information on file.
iTunes Store: My credit card's security code or zip code does not match my bank's records - Apple Support
Have a good one,
Alex H.

Hi I was just wondering, if my iPod nano's serial number says that it is eligible, but its screen is not working, am I still eligibile for the iPod nano 1st gen replacement?

Hi I was just wondering, if my iPod nano's serial number says that it is eligible, but its screen is not working, am I still eligibile for the iPod nano 1st gen replacement?

Yes. They'll still replace your iPod. Several users have indicated that they have returned damaged iPods and were still given a replacement iPod.
B-rock

My iphone wont let me send imessages it keeps saying my password is wrong but ive reset it twice

my iphone wont let me send imessages it keeps saying my password is wrong but ive reset it twice

From a Kappy post
The Three Best Alternatives for Security Questions and Rescue Mail
1. Use Apple's Express Lane.
Go to https://expresslane.apple.com ; click 'See all products and services' at the
bottom of the page. In the next page click 'More Products and Services, then
'Apple ID'. In the next page select 'Other Apple ID Topics' then 'Forgotten Apple
ID security questions' and click 'Continue'. Please be patient waiting for the return
phone call. It will come in time depending on how heavily the servers are being hit.
2. Call Apple Support in your country: Customer Service: Contact Apple support.
3. Rescue email address and how to reset Apple ID security questions.
A substitute for using the security questions is to use 2-step verification:
Two-step verification FAQ Get answers to frequently asked questions about two-step verification for Apple ID.

Every time I try to download an app it says billing info is incorrect but its all correct it won't let me sign in using a diff apple id even when I reset my phone anyone else had this problem if so how do I fix it?

Every time I try to download an app it says billing info is incorrect but its all correct it won't let me sign in using a diff apple id even when I reset my phone anyone else had this problem if so how do I fix it?

Amylovelyy wrote:
Every time I try to download an app it says billing info is incorrect but its all correct ...
Contact iTunes Customer Service and request assistance
Use this Link > Apple Support iTunes Store Contact
Amylovelyy wrote:
... it won't let me sign in using a diff apple id ...
Settings > iTunes and App store > Apple ID = Sign Out... Then Sign In using the preferred Apple ID.
It should be Noted that anything Downloaded with a Particular Apple ID is tied to that Apple ID and Cannot be Merged or Transferred to a Different Apple ID.

I verified my Apple Id but it wont let me download Apps as it says I'm not verified but my email tells me I am verified what do I do?

I verified my Apple Id but it wont let me download Apps as it says I'm not verified but my email tells me I am verified what do I do?

Why does this app NOT VERIFIED by Apple?

I'm trying to install iTunes on my computer running Windows 7 Home Premium.. I'm not sure if iTunes is compatible with it because when I try to install it, it says the installation is complete but it says there was an error so I can't get it! Please help!

Hellooo Apple Community!
I'm trying to install iTunes on my computer running Windows 7 Home Premium. I'm not sure if iTunes is compatible with my computer operating system because when I try to install it, it says the installation is completed but it says there was an error so it won't let me get itunes! Can someone please tell me if iTunes can be downloaded and installed on "Windows 7 Home Premium" and if so, how?! I need iTunes asap, I have an iphone 4 running ios 6.1.3. Please get back to mee!!
Thankyou thankyou thankyou!
Natalie.

I just tried running the Lenovo Hard Drive Quick Test both in normal mode and in safe mode. Both times it indicated a failed read test on the HDD. The last two tests also failed. I forget what those tests were called.
I am really beginning to think I have a bad HDD and the problem just happens to be in the reserved partition where my factory system software resides.

When I try to log on to icloud it says "Apple ID is valid but not an icloud account? Changed my Apple password a few times reset my system still no luck Please help!t

When I try to log on to icloud it says "Apple ID is valid but not an icloud account? Changed my Apple password a few times reset my system still no luck Please help!t

Welcome to the Apple community.
These types of messages often indicate a problem with the devices serial number, have you had your phone repaired at any stage or did you buy it second-hand.

I am trying to use a website on my ipad which says it needs Adobe Flashplayer but I can't download Adobe when I click on it

I am trying to use a website on my ipad which says it needs Adobe Flashplayer but I can't download Adobe when I click on it

Adobe has not made a version of Flash for the iPad.
Kappy explains why. https://discussions.apple.com/message/19446567#19446567
5 Flash Player Alternatives http://www.techshout.com/features/2011/01/flash-player-for-ipad-apps/
Top 4 browsers supports flash player on iPad and iPhone
http://mashtips.com/flash-player-ios/
 Cheers, Tom

When i Log into instagram it say my account is disable but when i log in on another iphone my instagram account log's in. when i try logging into another account it continue to say disable. Why cant i log into instagram or make another one on my iphone?

When i Log into instagram it say my account is disable but when i log in on another iphone my instagram account log's in. When i try logging into another account on my phone it continue to say disable. i also tried to make a new instagram on my phone but it wont let me. i deleted the app over and over again but it still wont let me log into any instagram account. Why cant i log into instagram or make another one on my iphone?
Is is=t possable to have your phone banned from a app forever???
HELP !!

I just asked the same thing and did some research. Some people have said that the UDID code is like banned from instagram, but your account isn't. I'm able to use it on my phone but not on my iPod.

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