Png export colors look off

Hey everyone I've been having trouble when exporting as png files from Illustrator CC. I'm on a mac os 10.7 by the way. My document color mode is RGB, working space profile is sRGB. Whenever I'm using colors from my Kuler swatches everything looks fine within Illustrator, when I export as a jpeg everything looks fine, but when I export as a png the colors are a bit less saturated. If I export as a png and open up the document in Mac's Preview and change the color profile to sRGB everything looks fine, and if I open up the AI file in photoshop and export as a png from there with "embed ICC profile" checked then the colors look fine. If I export the AI file from Photoshop without "embed ICC profile" checked then I get the less saturated colors I get when exporting as a png to Illustrator. I've also made sure when using the "save for web" option in Illustrator that "convert to sRGB" is checked, but I'm still getting these less saturated colors from some reason. Any suggestions? I spend 2 hour long sessions each using Adobe's customer service chat without getting to the bottom of the problem.

Same problem here, will be sure to let you know if I get anything! Basically, for me (I also have a Mac), it looks fine when opened on my computer but once I share it online, the colors look 'less saturated' and not as they should look.

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