PNP and PNPCE databases in ESS portal

HI,
As all you know standard ESS works on PNP logical database.but we have a situation in our project that we should use PNPCE database instead of PNP.
So i would like to get your inputs on the usage of PNPCE in ESS .will there be any bad impact of using that database
helpful inputs will be rewarded
Bala

Hi Bala,
It's very interesting question.
In case of PNP we are using the employee number as the base and using the sap logon name of this user pernr.
But if we are able to do the same with Person ID of the employee then I think we will be able to use the ESS with PNPCE.
I am not sure that is this possible but just giving a thought.
Regards,
Umesh Chaudhari.

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PNP and PNPCE databases in ESS

HI,
As all you know standard ESS works on PNP logical database.but we have a situation in our project that we should use PNPCE database instead of PNP.
So i would like to get your inputs on the usage of PNPCE in ESS .will there be any bad impact of using that database
helpful inputs will be rewarded
Bala

Hi Bala,
It's very interesting question.
In case of PNP we are using the employee number as the base and using the sap logon name of this user pernr.
But if we are able to do the same with Person ID of the employee then I think we will be able to use the ESS with PNPCE.
I am not sure that is this possible but just giving a thought.
Regards,
Umesh Chaudhari.

Tell me about PCH , PAP and PNPCE database using in HR reports

Hi SAP-HR Experts .
May anybody tell me about PCH , PAP and PNPCE database using in HR reports .
Does anybody have any ABAP report code about using thses LDB's .
I always used PNP database in my reports , i never come across in which i should use PCH , PAP and PNPCE database .
may some body tell me the practical use these LDB's .
My Best Regards to ALL : Rajneesh .

     minimize the amount of programming required, it often makes sense to use logical databases when generating reports. Reports are special programs that provide selection screens and access databases. The logical database PNP consists of the database driver SAPDBPNP and is activated using the report attributes. It fulfils three main functions:
     Data retrieval:
HR data is written for each employee to the main memory, where it can be processed.
     Screening: A selection screen enables you to select employees in accordance with organizational criteria. For example, you can select all of the hourly wage earners of a particular personnel subarea.
     Authorization check: The implicit authorization check is another advantage of the logical database. Personnel data is frequently confidential and it does not make sense to allow all programs carry out the authorization check.

PNP and PNPCE

What is the difference between PNP and PNPCE. why we are using PNP instead of PNPCE. In what situation we use PNPCE..
Please focus on this issue.
Regards
vamsi.

0712 is used in Concurrent Employment, it is for Main Assignment of a person.
I think he wanted to mention 709 Infotype that is used to determine pernrs for a person.
Every person in Concurrent Employment (CE) environment can hold multiple positions, each position will have one pernr, so one person can have many pernrs. (one for each job/position). These infotypes are useful while fetching data for all pernrs of a person. PNPCE is the logical database that facilitates all this process.

What is the main diff b/n ldb pnp and pnpce?

hi ,
what is the main diff b/n ldb pnp and pnpce?
thanks.

Hi Arun,
PNP/PNPCE - Both are Logical Databases for PA Module
In PNPCE - CE stands for Concurrent Employment.
The differnces are:
The PNPCE logical database supports the evaluation of HR master data. It includes the functions of the PNP logical database and offers additional evaluation options. Therefore, you should use the PNPCE logical database instead of the PNP logical database for all new developments.
The enhanced functionality of PNPCE in comparison to PNP essentially concerns the evaluation of Concurrent Employment, that is the possibility to group evaluate several assignments/personnel numbers of a person. The new events 'GET PERSON' and 'GET GROUP' as well as an enhanced syntax for the INFOTYPES statement (addition AS PERSON TABLE) for the procurement of infotype data enable you to use the new functionality. The use of these new functions is optional. You can run a PNPCE report that does not use the new events and the addition for the INFOTYPES statement in a PNP-compatible session. Since the PNPCE also has an improved selection screen, each report benefits from this even if the report does not use the functions for evaluating Concurrent Employment.
Hope this helps you.
Regards,
Chandra Sekhar

Creating Ztable with fields for URL link and making available in ESS Portal

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I have a requirement for maintaining URLs in a table, The URL can be unspecified length.
Table maintainance should also be provided.
I have searched SDN for this. But could not find the appropriate solution.
I have to pass these entries to ESS Portal through RFC.
Can I pass a string more than 255 chars. as an export parameter in an RFC.

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CATS Screen dumps when navigating between prev and foll weeks in ESS portal

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Hide the start time and end time in ESS portal

Experts,
We have a requirement to hide the Start time and End time on the header section of the travel request / expense sheet in the ESS portal. I have searched through the configuration and found several place to hide the start time and end time of segment yet these have no impact on the porta start and end time fields.
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Hi Martin,
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Customizing Benefits and Payments iview in ESS Portal

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I am working on ESS portal.
I want to add new links and textviews in the Benefits and Payments iview. After adding them I want to rearrange their positions with respect to existing fields on the iview.
I tried by opening the preview of iview from
Content Administration -> portal Content -> ESS->iviews ->Benefits and Payments iview.
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3) We need to relabel some of these plans we set up for HSA - how can we do that?
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Issue in Passport Country 2 and Passport Country3 in ESS Portal

Hi,
In SAP Portal Personal Data -Passport Country 1 All datas are getting saved in Overview Screen
But in Passport Country 2 and Passport Country 3 datas are not getting saved in Overview Screen and not getting the data from the backend also.
In V_T7XSSPERSUBTYP i have maintained UseCase and Active Subtype as
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Can any one please let me know how to pass the values backend and viceversa in Passport Country 2 and Passport Country 3
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What are the country ?
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/43/304c3329990b19e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/43/304cf629990b19e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/profile/ESS%20Personal%20Information%20UI%20enhancement%20without%20modification
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How to add table Z to infoset that is using PNP or PNPCE

hello my friends... i thing that the subject explains my situation... i want to add a Z table to infoset that is using PNP or PNPCE database, then i want to use the fields of Z table to selection criteria
regards and thanks in advance
Mário

Hi Mario,
As you go to GOTO - Global Properties while maintaining the infoset, you will realize that an infoset can either have a logical database or table join-not both at the same time-.
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Change existence report LDB PNP to PNPCE

Hi HR experts !!!
We want to convert all the existence reports which are using <b>PNP</b> to <b>PNPCE</b>? Do you guys have idea how much time itll take? As we have around 1000 reports.
I need your input guys
Cheers
Usman

Usman,
I am also on HR project . Were also discussing the same thing !! but it looks like it need another project to change the LDB to PNPCE as reason being lots of reports are written using PNP logic in mind.
But PNPCE Behaves different . Well I must say its another project to change 1000 reports
FYI...
It is better to go in for PNPCE even if you do not have Concurrent Employment to take advantage of the new lDB. The one thing PNPCE does do is when the GET executes only the infotype records retrieved for the interval requested will be retrieved. Whereas PNP by default, will retrieve all infotype records for a given PERNR.
SAP recommends to use PNPCE for all new development. But all the features are not available as of now. The Time Management functions for concurrent employment have not been released for all customers. They are activated for selected pilot customers only. Can get some info in SAP Note : 518520 , 516489..
OSS Note # 561645 ( LDB PNPCE: compatibility with PNP )
Symptom
In some respects, logical database PNPCE responds differently from logical database PNP. This may cause errors in applications that do not know this difference.
Other terms
PNP, PNPCE, payroll period, PNPTIMR9, PNPTIMRA, error message, information message
Reason and Prerequisites
There are the following differences between logical databases PNP and PNPCE:
Unlike PNP, logical database PNPCE does not have two radio buttons you can use to set the payroll period (parameters PNPTIMR9 and PNPTIMRA). Instead, the payroll period is set via parameter PNPTIMED (displayed as a dropdown box on the selection screen). This difference must be taken into account when you call a PNPCE report from another program. Otherwise, in incorrect system response occurs in the PNPCE report called. Problems may also occur if you convert an existing PNP report to PNPCE and want to use an old (PNP) variant.
If you enter an invalid payroll arear or an invalid payroll period, PNP issues an error message whereas PNPCE only issues an information message. This causes problems if you run a PNPCE report in the background because in this case the program runs into an endless loop instead of terminating.
Solution
Implement the attached corrections or import the corresponding support package.
This changes PNPCE in such a way that it responds like PNP
Moreover, also look at OSS
PNPCE: Performance improvement ( OSS note # 687004)
Symptom
You use a report that is based on logical database PNPCE. Either the performance of the report is poor, or the program terminates due to a memory overflow.
Other terms
Performance, PNPCE, 0000, 0001, buffer, memory space, memory space consumption, partitioning, FILL_0000_0001_BUFFER, T77S0, LDB, PCEPS, PNP mode
Reason and Prerequisites
The PNPCE can be used in a PNP-compatible mode. The mode is 'PNP-compatible' if the report does not program on events GET PERSON and GET GROUP and does not use the 'AS PERSON TABLE' extension for the INFOTYPES statements (for more details refer to the documentation of logical database PNPCE in Transaction SE36).
In this mode the performance is worse, as if logical database PNP is used. After the implementation of the correction from this note, the performance is significantly improved.
Another problem is that all personnel numbers that meet the entered selection criteria are internally selected during the execution of the report. Then the system imports all data records of infotypes 0000 and 0001 for all these personnel numbers because they are needed for the internal processing for different reasons. If the amount of personnel numbers or the amount of data records per personnel number is very large, memory problems can occur. The attached correction solves the memory problems.
Solution
Implement the correction according to the correction instructions or import the corresponding Support Package. If you implement the correction manually, you first have to implement Note 705870.
A part of the correction causes the internal processing of the persons/personnel numbers in blocks. If logical database PNPCE runs in PNP mode, the block-by-block processing is executed based on personnel numbers. Otherwise (in CE mode) it is executed based on persons. In PNP mode, logical database PNPCE behaves exactly like logical database PNP concerning the block processing. The settings are also made along the lines of logical database PNP. For a more detailed description refer to Note 705870.
Standard setting of the block size
In CE mode the block size is set to 10,000 persons by default. That is, as long as the number of selected persons does not exceed this value, no block processing is executed at all. A memory space analyses showed that this does not cause problems with the memory space in a system with an average number of infotype 0000 and infotype 0001 data records. However, if the amount of data records (= splits) is very large in your system, you have to reduce the maximum block size manually.
Manual setting of the block size
There are two different options to set the block size manually: a) report-specific by means of a switch which you have to set in the source code of the report, and b) cross-system by means of a switch in switch table T77S0.
The report-specific switch is called PNP_MAX_PARTITION_SIZE. It has priority (if switch T77S0 is activated) and must be set in the source code of the report at event START-OF-SELECTION at the latest.
Example: Set the maximum block size (number of persons that can be processed together) to 250:
START-OF-SELECTION.
PNP_MAX_PARTITION_SIZE = 250.
The switch is recommended for customer-specific reports requiring a lot of memory and therefore need to minimize the additional memory space of logical database PNPCE. It is not suited for SAP standard reports because the report would have to be modified in that case.
The cross-system switch is maintained in table T77S0. It affects all reports that are based on logical database PNPCE and do not use the report-specific switch PNP_MAX_PARTITION_SIZE.
The switch belongs to the LDB group and is called PCEPS. The switch is maintained in Transaction SM30 (enter table 'T77S0' and choose 'Maintain'). The switch is delivered (for Release 4.70 in a Support Package) with initial value (0). An initial value causes the switch to be ignored and the standard setting to be used instead. If you want to set the switch, set it to a numeric value. This value specifies the maximum number of persons that are processed together in a block.
Example:
LDB PCEPS 250
For more information on the procedure of a system upgrade refer to Note 317722
Thanks
Saquib
Message was edited by: Saquib Khan

Can I use SAP HR to drive ESS Portal user creation?

Hello
We are implementing a new instance of SAP HR and Portal for ESS and MSS and I am not sure of all the steps that need to be completed so any guidance / tips would be greatly appreciated.
Company currently has an LDAP - but not used extensively. Not all employees currently in LDAP as not all have network ids. All employees will have a SAP account to enable ESS (via Kiosks etc). ESS iViews in Portal will call SAP HR and possibly SAP BW. We have an instance of SAP already and user admin maintained via CUA - this will continue.
Scenario:
My initial thoughts are that we try to use SAP HR as the leading system to drive the ESS Portal users and access. Basically I want to create the user in SAP and assign them an ESS SAP role... then through syncronization have the user created in the Portal and have the correct ESS Portal assigned (in the Portal)
My thinking so far is to go the following way;
1) Create User Master Record in SAP (SU01)
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3) Populate Infotype 0105 with SAP username
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I am not sure of the next steps - I think there must be a way in an SAP table to map the ESS SAP role to the ESS Portal Role (is this via WP3R?)
then I am hoping that a standard job can be run (is this RSLDAPSYNC_USER) that will create the user in the Portal (UME?) and assign the correct Portal role ?
(obviously configuration needed)
For MSS and HR Power users - we would continue to assign SAP roles via SU01.
Can anyone assist with;
- Is my thinking correct in terms of how this should / could work?
- in SAP how can I map SAP Roles to Portal Roles ?
- will syncronization in SAP create the user in Portal and assign the role ? what do I need to configure?
Thanks in advance

Dear Michale,
I just dont know if this can throw some light on your prob.'
In our Orgn we had around 250 ess users and 200 sapr/3 users. Some of the r/3 users also logon to ess via their r/3 uname and password.
What we have done is like follows:
1. Created a role for only the ess users ZHRESS. For this i asked the HR functional people with sap_all profile to do all the job which the ESS users are supposed to do and tracer the authorization via tcode st01. We created the role on the basis of this trace report.
2. For the purely ESS users we created the users via tcode HRUSER and assigned then with the above role.
3. For the R/3 users who are supposed to avail the ess facility we assigned them with the role ZHRESS role in addition to the other roles assigned to them to carry out their normal R/3 transactions. Then we mapped their R/3 uname to their employee no via PA30 infotype 105.
4. Tcode HRUSER saved time which would have consumed had we done it via su01 and moreover it picked Name etc data from the HR master table. In HRUSER tcode , setting the user attributes helps to define what roles the users are to be assigned, what should be their initial password etc.
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Management Global Employee Vs C.E + PNP or PNPCE

All,
We are moving towards implementing u201CManagement Global Employeeu201D. I am new to u201CManagement Global Employeeu201D and I found some good documentation at www.saphelpbykevin.com . Kevin you did great job there like you did with us in Boise, Idaho. Any way first I wanted to understand the key differences between C.E and MGE?
After that what effort we need to do in order to change our ABAP program. Can we use PNP with MGE ?
Iu2019ve worked on Concurrent Employment in 2006 and I remember we had a hard time changing all our HR ABAP program and LDB to PNPCE . Are we talking about the same effort here? If any body of you has any suggestion , key point please share with me .
Thanks,
Saquib Khan

Lol!
I didn't see post until now...Not sure if you received the response yet...
MGE is a subset or submodule of CE.
CE concept is more align with and more import if you use SAP Payroll and Time. CE is concurrent employment where a person holds more than one position at a time in the same country.
MGE is management global employee. Where a person move from one position to another during a duration to do an assignment. Upon completing the assignment, the person could localize there or return home.
PNP and PNPCE. PNP is being discontinued and is replaced by PNPCE. The main difference between the two is PNPCE support the PERSON ID concept. Which is the unique identifier for an employee. It would be best to use PNPCE with MGE as you need that PERSON ID in the HR Report Category.
Kevin T. Nguyen-Tu
www.saphelpbykevin.com

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